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benitomuso

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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #300 on: November 23, 2011, 07:04:08 AM »

Hi Pablo and you all!
I got vB working!
I use the mod as it is in my 409 install with Storebr exe and my fault was not to click AND scroll simultaneulsy: mea culpa!
Only issue but I think it's inherent to this version, colors are not so brilliant as in vA unfortunately.
So this last step only remains, at least for  me, and then finally I can say it's perfect!
Once more, thks Pablo and best regards!
Gianluca

Gianluca,
                   it would be nice to have an example of what you mention. Could you Pause the game in some representative situation and make two screenshots one in Mode A and another one in Mode B, later publish them as to see the difference?

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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #301 on: November 23, 2011, 08:14:24 AM »

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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #302 on: November 23, 2011, 02:20:48 PM »

Just tested with my new goggles!


A - ATM is the best performance;
B - looks flikering with naked eyes but as I put the goggles the flickering seem to disappear!
C - looks a bit too slow;
D - too much washed and not match my goggles colours!
B-- a lot of flickering

So I mainly use A because looks more fast and stable and I got a feel of more good 3d!

Anyway when I close my left eye I see only one vision as should be , but when I close my right eye I can still see part of both vision so when in 3d i see a little portion of a second vision on my left side....changing the screen range from warm to cool don't solve the issue because surely the goggles don't match correctly red colour!

To avoid such situation (because it can be also how the monitor show the colorus) is possible to set colours scale by mod to match the goggles colors best suites?

Hope to have been clear!

walter
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #303 on: November 23, 2011, 06:23:43 PM »

Hi benitomuso,

many thanks for this great 3D work. 8) 8) 8)

I use two GPUs in sli mode
I had a bad flickering when I first tried this out and performance was not good.I tried changing a few video setting ,all to no avail.Then I did something that stopped the flikering straight away.In nvidea setting I changed to  single GPU rendering rather than alternate frame rendering option under 3d setting.My 3d images are really good now.Does anyone know how you can get it working using another method?Or is this the only solution.
One question though, I have no wide screen in the menu sections .Is there a fix for this?
My apologies if this has already been posted

Thankyou again benitomuso,

Dinga
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #304 on: November 23, 2011, 11:01:50 PM »

Hi

I just tried installing v4 Final (from the link right back at the start of this topic) and I'm getting a problem.  Whenever I try to do anything in 3D the computer generates a red image, which takes about a minute moving up the screen, then a blue one, then a red one etc., all at the same ridiculously low speed.  It also won't respond to any commands while this happens.  I'm using an Nvidia GeForce 7900 GTX graphics card, and running Il-2 4.10.1m.  Any ideas?

Thanks, this looks like a brilliant piece of work.

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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #305 on: November 24, 2011, 04:35:43 AM »

Hi

I just tried installing v4 Final (from the link right back at the start of this topic) and I'm getting a problem.  Whenever I try to do anything in 3D the computer generates a red image, which takes about a minute moving up the screen, then a blue one, then a red one etc., all at the same ridiculously low speed.  It also won't respond to any commands while this happens.  I'm using an Nvidia GeForce 7900 GTX graphics card, and running Il-2 4.10.1m.  Any ideas?

Thanks, this looks like a brilliant piece of work.

adambegg

I strongly suggest you to use V5RC, is the most advanced one and has many new discoveries applied. V4 was more primitive. Nonetheless the particular problem you refer was never reported before. I would say: first try V5 and later if you have any similar problem, siwtch between Stereo Modes (Left + Right buttons + Mousewheel) to see if any of them works OK for you.

Hi benitomuso,

many thanks for this great 3D work. 8) 8) 8)

I use two GPUs in sli mode
I had a bad flickering when I first tried this out and performance was not good.I tried changing a few video setting ,all to no avail.Then I did something that stopped the flikering straight away.In nvidea setting I changed to  single GPU rendering rather than alternate frame rendering option under 3d setting.My 3d images are really good now.Does anyone know how you can get it working using another method?Or is this the only solution.
One question though, I have no wide screen in the menu sections .Is there a fix for this?
My apologies if this has already been posted

Thankyou again benitomuso,

Dinga

It's good to know that. Most of the people who had problems were nVIDIA users. You are the first one who changing settings of the VideoCard itself has solved those problems. I didn't know that there were options to alternate the frame generation, but in fact that could be a real problem knowing how my MOD works. It would be writting to buffers of different cards and it is possible that never gets the jointed frame as expected.

There should be WideScreen support in Menues too, the class which controls that was MODded too. Are you using V5RC? Are you positive that no other 6DOF or WideScreen MOD is enabled and loading before the 3D Stereo?

With GPU settings the fact is that I only have ATI cards, and I developed this MOD with them, and in ATI it works OK. Regarding nVIDIA, I need a card to research and develop, but I will not buy one by my own, because I don't need it. Some people have started donating for it, but still we are far from the money needed to buy a decent one. I already have a PayPal account for the Total MODder, if you want to collaborate :


Regards,
                      Pablo
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #306 on: November 24, 2011, 05:24:32 AM »

Hi Pablo, could you see my (uploaded at mediafire...) screenshots?
Have a nice day!
Gianluca
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #307 on: November 24, 2011, 06:11:03 AM »

Hi Pablo, could you see my (uploaded at mediafire...) screenshots?
Have a nice day!
Gianluca

Si Gianluca,

                               but I don't see Stereo images on what you posted. The one labeled v5b is an "only cyan" half image, in V5 only theorically possible with Mode B-

  And the v5a you published is a plain standard one (no real 3D at all). Were those the proper files?

  Regards,
                         Pablo
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #308 on: November 24, 2011, 07:09:43 AM »

Hi Pablo I should admit I'm not at ease with taking and posting screnshots...however important for me was to show the difference in color between the two version: the one I call v5B is the stable one which actually gives me no vsynch problems while the so called v5A is the standard one.
as you can notice the colour of vB is somehow blueish, definitely darker than vA and the situation gets a bit worse of course with the goggles on.

PS: the "in game" colors reflect perfectly this difference so, even though I'll try to post  stereo images of the two versions, result will remain the same
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #309 on: November 25, 2011, 12:39:44 AM »

Hi

I tried v5RC but got the same problem.  I haven't been able to try changing the mode as the game runs so slowly and does not accept inputs.  I tried changing it through the conf.ini as suggested, but it had no effect.  Could you confirm where the files are meant to be within the folder structure?  I'm not 100% sure I got it right.

Thanks

adambegg

(p.s.  I let one frame load, and after it eventually did it looked amazing!)
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #310 on: November 25, 2011, 06:23:09 AM »

Hi

I tried v5RC but got the same problem.  I haven't been able to try changing the mode as the game runs so slowly and does not accept inputs.  I tried changing it through the conf.ini as suggested, but it had no effect.  Could you confirm where the files are meant to be within the folder structure?  I'm not 100% sure I got it right.

Thanks

adambegg

(p.s.  I let one frame load, and after it eventually did it looked amazing!)

Adambegg,
                    the activation of the MOD is the typical one and it's detailed in the ReadMe delivered with the MOD. You have to copy the internal directory called 00_PAL-Stereo3D to the corresponding folder for modding of your installation: the repository of my Total MODder if you use it, the same to your JSGME or directly to your MODS, #DBW or #UP# if this was the case.

  As I stated tens of times before: you have to be positive that no other 6DOF or EcranWide MOD is loading before the Stereo 3D, because if so it can have all type of problems (from CTDs to abnormal functioning).

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                     Pablo

PS: here I'm attaching the full ReadMe of the v5 with all the details. Please donwload it.
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v4 + ScreenShot MOD
« Reply #311 on: November 25, 2011, 06:32:52 AM »

Hi Pablo I should admit I'm not at ease with taking and posting screnshots...however important for me was to show the difference in color between the two version: the one I call v5B is the stable one which actually gives me no vsynch problems while the so called v5A is the standard one.
as you can notice the colour of vB is somehow blueish, definitely darker than vA and the situation gets a bit worse of course with the goggles on.

PS: the "in game" colors reflect perfectly this difference so, even though I'll try to post  stereo images of the two versions, result will remain the same

Gianluca,
                   but what you are seeing in Mode B is only the half cyan image. You don't get the overimposed red image that completes the frame (look at the screenshots posted and you are missing the red part you can see there). You will never see 3D this way.

  You have dual video cards with SLI? This can be a problem as I have started to think after the comments of Dinga. I should adapt it to dual card configuration but I don't have where to try it. So for the while I think that if this is your case, some tweaking as Dinga suggested is the only way.

  Regards,
                       Pablo
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