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Albert Von Grewe

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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: v2 stable
« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2011, 02:15:55 PM »

Hello!
I have the "iZ3D Driver" on my PC.   

http://www.iz3d.com/

It's the great program, who changes normal games into 3D games and not only this.
Unfortunately, the program works with more recent games (The Half-Life 2 is old but looks amazing in 3D  ;) ).
Look at the list of compatible games, it looks really good.
It's sad, but the program doesn't want to work with Il-2 Sturmovik.
Maybe it would be possible to fix... 
I think, that it would solve the problem of compatibility! ::)
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: v2 stable
« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2011, 03:44:05 PM »

Ok, but where do I find the "Stereo3DV3b"?

Sorry,
                   today I had to left home before noon.

  I will upload this V3b in a couple of hours. I think that this one will make that everybody see 3D stereo, and with a great depth sempsation, but I cannot manage to reduce flickering from OpenGl.

  Give me some more time and I think that I'll find it.

  Regards,
                       Pablo
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: v2 stable
« Reply #98 on: November 06, 2011, 03:55:16 PM »

Hi Pablo! 1st I thank to your great effort on this mod (like all the other great ones you give always to the community). take all your time to fine-tuning this marvellous feature for IL2 game. Just I wonder how it can work for you up now and not for any of us.. may be some particular set you have in your game?. tell us what we can do to help you.I think you know you wilk  hit the top level if this "3d mod" will really work for most of il2 folk: il will be THE mod of all time.
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #99 on: November 07, 2011, 12:12:53 AM »

Hello!
I have the "iZ3D Driver" on my PC.   

http://www.iz3d.com/

It's the great program, who changes normal games into 3D games and not only this.
Unfortunately, the program works with more recent games (The Half-Life 2 is old but looks amazing in 3D  ;) ).
Look at the list of compatible games, it looks really good.
It's sad, but the program doesn't want to work with Il-2 Sturmovik.
Maybe it would be possible to fix... 
I think, that it would solve the problem of compatibility! ::)

Albert,
                        I commented something about iZ3D. For me is unplayable. I tried it with DirectX Il-2 and from never less than 60fps I moved to only 2fps. Visual artifacts, game completely unplayable, etc. I don't understand how it requires 30 times more to process each frame, it doesn't make sense!

  For LockOn, which is DirectX native is a non-go too. Impossible to play it.

 
Hi Pablo! 1st I thank to your great effort on this mod (like all the other great ones you give always to the community). take all your time to fine-tuning this marvellous feature for IL2 game. Just I wonder how it can work for you up now and not for any of us.. may be some particular set you have in your game?. tell us what we can do to help you.I think you know you wilk  hit the top level if this "3d mod" will really work for most of il2 folk: il will be THE mod of all time.

Raptor,
               it worked for some. Read all the posts. It was not only me (fortunately). Now in the V3b offered in the first page, I think that everybody (I hope) will be able to experiment with very deep Stereo image, even while for now it has quite flickering.

  For the while it will be nice to receive feedback about other configurations of the game, and how it works for different users.

  Regards,
                        Pablo
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #100 on: November 07, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »

Hi Pablo,

I just put v3b to a test on my slow rig (Geforce 210, not the type of machine you would pick for playing IL-2).
Since it's slightly overstrained by the 3D mod, I had the opportunity what happens "frame by frame".
Currently with v3b on an elsewhere unmodded Modact 3 installation I get the following frame loop:

  • "All red" frame (the whole image is red, nothing to see in that frame)
  • Full color frame, shifted left by a few pixels. No sign of red tinting anywhere
  • "All blue" frame (the whole image is blue, nothing to see in that frame)
  • Full color frame, shifted right by a few pixels. No sign of blue tinting anywhere
  • continue with frame 1 above

Don't take this as an error report unless I get this confirmed on my GTX550Ti machine, just a heads up for the moment.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #101 on: November 07, 2011, 01:06:00 AM »

Hi Pablo,

I just put v3b to a test on my slow rig (Geforce 210, not the type of machine you would pick for playing IL-2).
Since it's slightly overstrained by the 3D mod, I had the opportunity what happens "frame by frame".
Currently with v3b on an elsewhere unmodded Modact 3 installation I get the following frame loop:

  • "All red" frame (the whole image is red, nothing to see in that frame)
  • Full color frame, shifted left by a few pixels. No sign of red tinting anywhere
  • "All blue" frame (the whole image is blue, nothing to see in that frame)
  • Full color frame, shifted right by a few pixels. No sign of blue tinting anywhere
  • continue with frame 1 above

Don't take this as an error report unless I get this confirmed on my GTX550Ti machine, just a heads up for the moment.

Best regards - Mike

Mike,
           nice to know that.

  EDIT: I didn't understand you properly. I tried many times of capturing (with Printscreen key) one of those full color frames and I don't get them. I don't think if this is universal.

  But do you see Stereo 3D effect or not? I suppose that if the only thing you see if that combination you told me no Stereo would appear.

  How do you have the chance of capturing frame by frame? It would be very helpful for debugging this.

  Thanks,
                      Pablo
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #102 on: November 07, 2011, 01:41:56 AM »

Hi Benitomuso'

I've upgraded my rig many times over the years and as a consequence have quite a few redundant monitors laying around so i spent the weekend ardiousely testing on different screens here are my results i hope that they might be of some use

CRT MONITOR.....(track ir/ 6dof/ ecran wde disabled) both versions work well, direct x works better, both versions shake abit, open gl more so.....crt screens use cr tubes to project light and colour so are good for 3d

FLAT SCREENS.....(TRACK IR/6DOF/ ECRAN WIDE DISABLED) i can get both versions to work though with quite a bit of flicker and shaking, direct x works better....however i can only make them work on monitors of 70HZ or above,,,,,anything below 70HZ and i get nothing

LED SCREENS.....(TRACKIR/ 6DOF/ ECRAN WIDE DISABLED) works on screens 70HZ or above but not on anything less, direck x is better......however the red/ green edges seen without goggles are very intense and i believe could damage the screen by burning an image onto them if left on to long.......i wouldn't risk this on my state of the art led screens

regards Blumax
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #103 on: November 07, 2011, 02:16:13 AM »

FLAT SCREENS.....(TRACK IR/6DOF/ ECRAN WIDE DISABLED) ....however i can only make them work on monitors of 70HZ or above,,,,,anything below 70HZ and i get nothing

... good found Blumax, because most TrackIR users need to have VSync ON in order to avoid vertical tearing of the image, and in my case VSync ON gives a 65Hz refresh result .... hence may be no 3D effect at all (but I still don't have anaglyph glasses yet ... so I'll report back as soon as I get them...)
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #104 on: November 07, 2011, 02:21:08 AM »

Yupieeee!! It seems the whole thing is really close to working with my rig and V3 (DBW 1.6, OpenGL, Nvidia)! Although it works in a slightly strange manner... What happens exactly is that when I start the flight the screen is like a red-blue hell because outside and inside the cockpit everything flickers heavily. Still! Through all this flickering I can really see that the image became 3D. The mousewheel adjustment allows to more or less reduce the eye-killing effect but I couldn't manage to eliminate it anyway.
Then the strange thing happens - after I press the right mouse button and scroll down the 3D becomes disabled (as per the note on the screen) AND the flickering is gone completely AND the pure 3D stays on the screen!!! ??? ??? ??? I mean no artifacts, no flickering at all, just a pure joy. And all this beauty lasts until I move the mouse or hat or press esc or otherwise change the view - after that the initial image becomes fixed as if it were a screenshot or smth and the second layer image appears and moves respectfully. And that is a real eye-killer guys!
Then there's no way to get rid of the first (fixed) image except for enabling the 3D again and start all over
I feel that's it's really close to be perfect and I hope it's just my configuration that spoils the whole thing but.... any suggestions?

Oh, and the effect is the same irrespective of 60 or 75Hz LED
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #105 on: November 07, 2011, 03:06:06 AM »

Thanks benitomuso for answer.
It's sad, that the iZ3D Driver is useless for us.
I once saw a short film:
but maybe this is a mystification...
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #106 on: November 07, 2011, 03:16:25 AM »

do you see Stereo 3D effect or not?
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do you have the chance of capturing frame by frame?
Hi Pablo,

just forget it :)
I tried to capture the frames with fraps, and while doing so, everything was working perfectly fine (yes, some flicker, yes, my GPU is too slow, but the mod itself worked to the letter, just perfect).
Now I tried to reproduce my previous issue for about half an hour, including complete reboot, to no avail.
I don't know why it's working now, but it is.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: A new era has come! Stereoscopic 3D: new v3b for test
« Reply #107 on: November 07, 2011, 03:16:54 AM »

OK, it looks like the red layer just moves while the blue one stays fixed (all this in 3D disabled mode):

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