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Juri_JS

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #552 on: February 18, 2013, 04:18:21 AM »

Another feature worth implementing, if possible:

oDeBombTown 10622:50509   VVS 3F 3F   LW 9B 4Y 9B 4F

This line should create a mission, when bombers come in two waves, each escorted by 4 fighters. Unfortunately, only the first group of bombers is escorted (by player and his flight). The other four fighters just fly ahead and leave the other 9 bombers unprotected.

My suggestion for the future:

A fighter group after a bomber group in the ops file should always fly escort for the bombers, no matter how many bomber groups are in the ops file line and no fighters should fly ahead of the bombers.

Example:
9B 8F 6B 4F

This should create two bomber groups one escorted by 8 fighters and one by 4 fighters.


Only a fighter group infront of the bomber group should fly ahead of the bombers.

Example:
4F 9B 8F

This should create 4 fighters flying ahead of the 9 bombers and a bomber escort of 8 fighters.
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #553 on: February 18, 2013, 04:38:53 AM »

but the Bx or Br does only create fighter cover with two or four fighters, that´s not very realisitc; the same problem exists for heavy bombers missions

This issue should be resolved separately. Now only the first pair of parameters unites in maintenance. For example VVS 9B 3F 9A 4F - 3F will accompany 9B, and 9A and 4F will depart to the purpose separately.
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #554 on: February 18, 2013, 04:41:36 AM »

I have the same problem. If I am flying Stuemovik and I have 6Y 8F then only the first 4 fighters cover me and the other 4 fly ahead. Sometimes I don't mind too much as they tie up the enemy over the target but it's not really what I'm after. The neatest way would be to have the second flight of fighters to cover the first flight so the escort is stacked by altitude.

It is a known problem, it at me long ago in "to do" list. :) Let's solve :)
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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #555 on: February 18, 2013, 04:44:11 AM »

thx for reply Asura

much like this, for the heavy bombers there is no fighter escort staying at the heavies, even if you have set it to 26hB 12F in the ops file - the fighters are flying in front of the bombers and don´t escort them, is it possible to fix this (in the future, with your to do list)?
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #556 on: February 18, 2013, 04:50:10 AM »

My suggestion for the future:

I will try to make it. Most likely in 2.0.0.6 or 2.0.0.7
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #557 on: February 18, 2013, 04:54:31 AM »

thx for reply Asura

much like this, for the heavy bombers there is no fighter escort staying at the heavies, even if you have set it to 26hB 12F in the ops file - the fighters are flying in front of the bombers and don´t escort them, is it possible to fix this (in the future, with your to do list)?

Yes of course, it will be uniform system not dependent on type of planes. I think the solution which was proposed by Juri_JS will approach best of all. It is necessary to look only as it it will be coordinated with the current ops files.
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #558 on: February 18, 2013, 04:58:57 AM »

I will be grateful for further bug reports. :) At 2.0.0.5 I will complete drop tanks system and I will add files with data for DBW 1.71.
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Juri_JS

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #559 on: February 18, 2013, 05:00:54 AM »

One thing that needs to be discussed is what happens with such entries:
6B 4F 4F

Should both 4F group escort the bombers or just one and the other group should fly ahead?
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Lagarto

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #560 on: February 18, 2013, 06:08:11 AM »

One thing that needs to be discussed is what happens with such entries:
6B 4F 4F
Should both 4F group escort the bombers or just one and the other group should fly ahead?

Perhaps this is the right solution to what Ian proposed: "The neatest way would be to have the second flight of fighters to cover the first flight so the escort is stacked by altitude."
I imagine a following setting: 3B 8F 8F 8F, a RAF 'Circus' type mission, with bombers as a bait and three levels of fighters, close escort, mid escort and high escort, each keeping eye on the one directly below.
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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #561 on: February 18, 2013, 06:45:30 AM »

considering the example from juri_js in post #552, this would be the way, in this logical structure 3B 8F 8F 8F means all the fighters would be staying with the bombers
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Asura

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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #562 on: February 18, 2013, 06:52:06 AM »

Before making the decision I advised to work these questions in the full editor. It is simple to me to set multilevel maintenance, but game doesn't observe the instructions given to it. One of the reasons why didn't make so earlier, is that fighters of maintenance start manufacturing "snakes" and when "snake" on "snake" result is imposed to predict difficult. Collisions are possible.
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Re: Project DGen_mod
« Reply #563 on: February 18, 2013, 07:02:25 AM »

I have made several missions like this and generally you don't get collisions because the different flights are stacked by alt.

You do get collisions if one flight guards some bombers and another guards other bombers in the same formation. That is why I use altitude stacking. So 6Y 8F has your Sturmoviks escorted by 4 fighters who are themselves escorted by 4 fighters above them.
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