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Günther

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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #684 on: July 15, 2012, 06:08:01 AM »

Hi I don't know if its good idea,but could be interesting of adding in a version of the fw-190 which had external supercharger intakes:

"Another procedure to upgrade the height performance of the Fw 190 was to use external air intakes for the BMW 801 engine. This is not to be confused with the Fw 190 trop version. The test report of FW 190 No. 528 dated 27.8.1942 shows that the critical altitude -Volldruckhöhe- increased from 6400 m to 7400 m when using emergency power. Therefore this Fw 190 reached a speed of 694 km/h/431 mph at critical altitude (full throttle height) (1,42 ata, 2700 U/min, 2 MG 151, G = 3640 kg, 25.8.42). Focke-Wulf documents indicate that the external air intake should be used for the Fw 190 series, however, for reasons not yet clear it saw little operational use. While no concrete numbers can be given for aircraft equipped with this modification, a small notification from 1944 notes that 250 construction kits were available for installation in Fw 190 fighters."
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/fw190a5.html the gray one on the curve.



To me its quite weird that it didn't go into production...
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #685 on: July 15, 2012, 06:56:49 AM »

Hi I don't know if its good idea,but could be interesting of adding in a version of the fw-190 which had external supercharger intakes:

"Another procedure to upgrade the height performance of the Fw 190 was to use external air intakes for the BMW 801 engine. This is not to be confused with the Fw 190 trop version. The test report of FW 190 No. 528 dated 27.8.1942 shows that the critical altitude -Volldruckhöhe- increased from 6400 m to 7400 m when using emergency power. Therefore this Fw 190 reached a speed of 694 km/h/431 mph at critical altitude (full throttle height) (1,42 ata, 2700 U/min, 2 MG 151, G = 3640 kg, 25.8.42). Focke-Wulf documents indicate that the external air intake should be used for the Fw 190 series, however, for reasons not yet clear it saw little operational use. While no concrete numbers can be given for aircraft equipped with this modification, a small notification from 1944 notes that 250 construction kits were available for installation in Fw 190 fighters."
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/fw190/fw190a5.html the gray one on the curve.

Biiiippppp !

To me its quite weird that it didn't go into production...

It was a stop-gap that didn't offer enough advantage; even the the D9 was just in interim step to the TA152
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #686 on: July 15, 2012, 07:07:32 AM »

+1 with Spinnetti and no need to add an other slot:

FW190 A3/U7:
"Fw 190A-3/U7 - attempt to create a new high altitude fighter, with reduced weight, with armament consisting of only two MG 151/20 E cannons. Only three planes built (W.Nr. 130528, -530 and -531); they can be recognized by external charger air inlets on both engine cowling sides."
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #687 on: July 15, 2012, 07:27:15 AM »

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Biiiippppp !

It was a stop-gap that didn't offer enough advantage; even the the D9 was just in interim step to the TA152

Well yes but it could have been a more  economical development  itstead of reengineering a design.... 694km/h(1942) not bad for its time!
note: don't need to be rude mr Spinnetti!
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #688 on: July 17, 2012, 06:59:56 PM »

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Biiiippppp !

It was a stop-gap that didn't offer enough advantage; even the the D9 was just in interim step to the TA152

Well yes but it could have been a more  economical development  itstead of reengineering a design.... 694km/h(1942) not bad for its time!
note: don't need to be rude mr Spinnetti!


I don't know where the Biiiiiipp ! thing came from - I didn't put it there! Wasn't critisizing, jus sharing info - no intent to be rude...

While we are on the topic, Claymore, did your stuff make it into HSFX6?

Thanks...
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #689 on: July 18, 2012, 12:20:02 AM »

Yes of course, only a big part of my pack is already include in HSFX 6.01, not the whole, and the openable canopies are only for Offline.
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #690 on: July 21, 2012, 07:45:04 PM »

Sorry for asking, but is possible make the pre-production A-0 and A-1? please?

http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/a-1.htm


                           FW-190A-0








http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/other-mechanical-systems-tech/fw-190-manuals-5046.html
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #691 on: July 21, 2012, 08:55:36 PM »

Yes of course, only a big part of my pack is already include in HSFX 6.01, not the whole, and the openable canopies are only for Offline.

K, thanks for the info...
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #692 on: August 02, 2012, 09:00:49 AM »

Possibly stupid question: Has anyone gotten this to work in HSFX6.01 and 4.11?
And if so, what did they do and what did they download before I clutter my drive with a bunch of stuff I don't need?
Thanks in advance
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #693 on: August 02, 2012, 01:47:12 PM »

Possibly stupid question: Has anyone gotten this to work in HSFX6.01 and 4.11?
And if so, what did they do and what did they download before I clutter my drive with a bunch of stuff I don't need?
Thanks in advance

Hi !

As I said above; a big part of my pack is already included in HSFX 6.01 and the openable canopies are only for Offline.

What do you want more ?
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #694 on: August 02, 2012, 06:26:41 PM »

"What do you want more ?"


LOL!
Well, I admit to being airplane greedy.
How much of the pack is in there? *Yes, somewhat greedy and expectant tone here*
I haven't installed it yet, so I'm not certain what's in there yet as compared to what is in the pack.
I have an older machine, and ran into the old famous "sound dll bug" that kept me from running IL2.
Took me all week to iron it out, between corrupted downloads due to the phone company helping by doing line work in my area and the dll bug.
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Re: Pack Fw 190 & Ta 152
« Reply #695 on: August 20, 2012, 01:30:52 AM »

Good Morning.
I was afraid this might only 4.101 or UP3 (RC4)
i hear its working all right with DBW 11.71 too, so i will  take all my courage and carefully approach this Monster of a Plane. Fws aélways scare me... difficult to fly, but awesome in their concept.

with all the download problems,
Gamekeeper (Missionfortoday) has offered to support Mods , and offers the Library to host Mods.

When i have my copy, can i, may i, am i free to...
send your Package to Missionfortoday?

Can i suggest you upload it there?
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