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Hi-jack24

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Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« on: December 20, 2011, 11:45:47 AM »

Let me introduce you one of my favoruite aircraft!
;D

The J-29 was a sweedish fighter designed and manufactured by Saab in the 1950s. It was called "tunnan" that means "barrel".
The test pilot described the aircraft as "on the ground an ugly duckling – in the air, a swift."



Design:
The original prototype (R1001) was designed around a mostly straight wing, but after the Swedish engineers had obtained some German research data on swept-wing designs, the prototype was altered to incorporate a 25 degree sweep, first tested on a modified Saab Safir (designated Saab 201). A member of the Saab engineering team had been allowed to review German aeronautical documents stored in Switzerland. These files captured by the Americans in 1945 clearly indicated delta and swept-wing designs had the effect of "reducing drag dramatically as the aircraft approached the sound barrier." [1] The SAAB 29 prototype flew for the first time on 1 September 1948. It was a small, chubby aircraft with a single central air intake, a bubble cockpit and a very thin swept-back wing.
The cannon were mounted under the nose section. There was the landing lights in front of the front gear. The wings angle was 25°.



Operational history:

The J 29 was one of the first production fighters with a swept-back wing. It was fast and agile. The Tunnan set the world speed record on a 500 km (310 mi) closed circuit in 1954[2] at 977 km/h (607.05 mph). Two S 29C (reconnaissance variant) additionally set an international speed record of 900.6 km/h (559.4 mph) over a 1,000 km (620 mi) closed-circuit course in 1955.[2] In the 1950s, the Swedish Air Force, Flygvapnet, primarily using the J 29, was ranked as the fifth most powerful air force in the world, after USA, USSR, UK and France.

The crash record in early service was poor, mainly due to the inexperience with swept-winged aircraft and the lack of a two seat, dual control Tunnan trainer variant: this meant that SAF fighter pilots could only be trained using two seat variants of the de Havilland Vampire (a straight-winged jet), before going solo in a Tunnan.

The fighter version was retired from active service in 1965, but some aircraft were used for target towing up to 1974. The last official military flight was completed in August 1976 at the 50th anniversary air show of the Swedish Air Force.

A total of 30 Tunnans were sold to Austria in 1961 where they remained in service until 1972.



Tunnan's African war service

The Tunnan was the first Swedish jet aircraft to fight in combat. In 1961, five J 29Bs were stationed in the Democratic Republic of the Congo for a UN peacekeeping mission (ONUC), organized as the F 22 Wing of the Swedish Air Force. It was reinforced by four J 29B and two S 29C (the photo reconnaissance version) in 1962. Most of the missions involved attacking ground targets with internal cannons as well as unguided rockets. No aircraft were lost in action despite large amounts of AAA. Consensus of the crews and foreign observers was that the Tunnan's capabilities were exceptional.[3][4] (Their secessionist adversaries used a few Fouga Magisters and other aircraft with relatively poor air combat capabilities.) The only aircraft lost was by a high-ranking officer who made a trial-run and crashed during an aborted takeoff. When ONUC was terminated in 1964, some of the Swedish aircraft were destroyed at their base, since they were no longer needed at home and the cost of taking them all back was deemed excessive.

Saab J-29 F:


General characteristics:

    Crew: One
    Length: 11.0 m (36 ft 1 in)
    Wingspan: 10.23 m (33 ft 7 in)
    Height: 3.75 m (12 ft 4 in)
    Wing area: 24.15 m² (260.0 ft²)
    Empty weight: 4,845 kg (10,680 lb)
    Max takeoff weight: 8,375 kg (18,465 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Aero RM2B turbojet, 6,070 lbf (27 kN)


Performance:

    Maximum speed: 1,060 km/h (660 mph)
    Range: 1,100 km (685 mi)
    Service ceiling: 15,500 m (50,850 ft)
    Rate of climb: 32.1 m/s (6,320 ft/min)


Armament

    4x Hispano Mark V 20 mm cannons
    75 mm (3 in) unguided rockets
    Rb 24 air-to-air missiles
    145 mm (5.8 in) anti-armor rockets, 150 mm (6 in) HE (high-explosive) rockets, 180 mm (7.2 in) HE antiship rockets


Variants:

J 29 - Four prototypes built in 1949–1950.

J 29A - Fighter, 224 built from 1951 to 1954; later series had wing-mounted dive brakes moved to the fuselage, ahead of the main landing gear doors.

J 29B - Fighter, 332 built 1953–1955; featured 50% larger fuel capacity and underwing hardpoints to carry bombs, rockets and drop-tanks.

A 29B - Same aircraft as the J 29B, but different use.

S 29C - Reconnaissance ("S" was derived from Spaning; either scouting or reconnaissance in Swedish), 76 built from 1954 through 1956; five cameras mounted in a modified nose (no armament was carried). This variant primarily operated at low level and was differentiated by having dark brown and dark green camouflage on the topsides wherein other variants were unpainted.

J 29D - Single prototype to test Ghost RM2A turbojet with 27.5 kN (2,800 kgp / 6,175 lbf) afterburning thrust; project abandoned in 1961.

J 29E - Fighter, 29 built in 1955; incorporated a "dog-tooth" instead of wing slats.

J 29F - Fighter, 308 aircraft converted from available stocks from 1954 to 1956; featured the afterburning Ghost and dog-tooth wing; all remaining aircraft were further modified in 1963 to carry a pair of US-designed AIM-9B Sidewinder heat-seeking air-to-air missiles, built by SAAB under license as the "Rb 24."

So thats all!  ;)
Most of the text was copied from wikipedia because my english too pour to wrie a whole article about aircrafts.  :-[
I attach some more picture to get a better view of the aircraft:


The cockpit:









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BT~Tarik

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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 11:58:02 AM »

 :o reminds me of the Ta-183...  :o Anyone else ? Stubby, round, swept wings, central air intake...And the front part (canopy and nose) looks like copy-paste to me...

Anyone else feel this ?

Sweet little fighter !
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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 12:50:07 PM »

i think so too. looks like something in between the ta-183 and the pulqui. looks like the studying of the german research left its mark on the design.
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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 01:51:37 AM »

The Swedes "purchased" German data through Switzerland after the war.... so the story goes. So yes, this may indeed be much closer to the Ta-183 than the Mig-15 for example.

The uiniqie shape of the exhaust/stabilizer part is also a giveaway of the original srtarting point.

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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 04:16:16 AM »

Sorry I am comparing it again  :P But doesn't the exhaust and stabilizer kinda looks like the panther (F9F) one ? I really like this small plane, and (in my eyes, but I'm no expert AT ALL) it looks like a good candidate for a frankenplane...

Greetings  :)
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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2011, 11:08:21 AM »

The drawings of the j29 prototype was finished in 1946 january so i dont think so that swedish aircraft designers could see the f9f panther before its first flight (24 November 1947).
The similiraties for the Ta-183 can be possible but i think it comes from only the basic structure...


                      Ta-183                                                                                  J-29

 

Above all if someone would make the J29 come true in Il-2 we could get another 1st generation fighter which is equal to the mig and f86 fighters... ;D
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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 05:03:43 AM »

Hello all sim pilots I would like to make a request about the flying barrel. the design comes from the ta-183
so i tought it cant be that difficult to make it. here are some pictures and performance



Specifications (Saab J 29F Tunnan)


Data from The Great Book of Fighters[5][6]
General characteristics
Crew: One
Length: 11.0 m (36 ft 1 in)
Wingspan: 10.23 m (33 ft 7 in)
Height: 3.75 m (12 ft 4 in)
Wing area: 24.15 m² (260.0 ft²)
Empty weight: 4,845 kg (10,680 lb)
Max. takeoff weight: 8,375 kg (18,465 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Volvo Aero RM2B turbojet, 6,070 lbf (27 kN)
Performance
Maximum speed: 1,060 km/h (660 mph)
Range: 1,100 km (685 mi)
Service ceiling: 15,500 m (50,850 ft)
Rate of climb: 32.1 m/s (6,320 ft/min)
Armament
4x Hispano Mark V 20 mm cannons
75 mm (3 in) unguided rockets
Rb 24 air-to-air missiles
145 mm (5.8 in) anti-armor rockets, 150 mm (6 in) HE (high-explosive) rockets, 180 mm (7.2 in) HE antiship rockets

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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 05:14:06 AM »

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Re: Saab J-29 "tunnan"
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 08:01:40 AM »

I for one, would love to try this against other first generation jets ingame.
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