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[Joberg]

Hey no worries, I'll see if I can find a way to mix and match these by the end of the summer at least, thanks again for helping to keep this game looking good!

[Korrigan]

Here you are : http://www.packupload.com/SFTKWMEA13F

[buchtik]

Thanks, it works fine, no random FPS drops any more.

[Claw]

ooopppssss sorry about that buchtik.

Also make sure you keep that laptop on a hard flat surface so air can flow under and around it. Soft surfaces will restrict airflow.

[Gurner]

Thanks, Korrigan

[Korrigan]

Thanks, Korrigan

Thanks to you for this great mod.

[Gurner]

 

[kpn.kardif]

Thanks for the replies and advice, Gurner and Claw.  I've been away for a few days so haven't had a chance to check the thread or mess with IL-2.  I should have some free time this evening, I'll poke around with it then and see what differences I can come up with. 

[kpn.kardif]

I have been using opengl for as long as I've been flying.  Setting up my conf.ini to look exactly like yours makes no difference, average fps about 13 dipping to 4 or 5 quite often.  I have tried it with the hardware specific values (the strings with NV at the end, right?) at both 1 and 0, no difference.  Water=4 looks really scary when I turn that on, setting it to 2 looks like it should in my opinion, though neither setting has any effect on frame rate.  Trying to mess with any of the hardware options from within the game always reverts my resolution back to 640x480, so I try to avoid that.  1680x1050 is what I run it at.

I'm using radeonpro for program specific hardware profiles.  Setting up il2 with everything at min makes the game look like crap.  It does give me a few more frames, but we're talking max of about 20.  Also, msi afterburner says my card isn't even hardly being used when settings are that low.  When I ramp them up, (AA 24x, anisotropic 16x) the gpu usage jumps around pretty erratically, with a few spikes at 100% while running black death.  Average is probably closer to 40% usage. 

One oddity I've run across is processor affinity.  Il2 runs on on a single thread as far as I am aware, on my system it is core three.  Changing processaffinitymask in conf.ini I think should change which core it's running from.  Changing that value makes no difference.  Set it 0, 1, 2, or 3, the game still uses core 3.  And yes, I did remove the ; at the front of the line.  That core is also at 100% usage as long as il2 is running, according to performance tab in task manager. 

I am unable to run the il2setup.exe utility.  I have the game from steam, though I don't use steam to run it.  I moved the directory to a different file away from the steam parent directory, and the selector that comes with ultrapack/dbw allows me to run it without having to go through steam first.  So in essence, I have two installs, one modded, one not.  Il2setup.exe run from my modded directory gives me an an application load error, basically because the program is no longer in the steam directory.  Il2setup.exe run from the steam directory doesn't work either.  Trying to run it results in nothing more than my screen flickering.  Steam doesn't like it when you try and mod a game the way I have il2 modded, and I found years ago that moving the directory to another place on the hard drive was a quick and easy solution. 

So I would guess that there's either a bottleneck somewhere, or maybe a classfile conflict.  I would really rather not remove TFM for testing purposes, as it took me 3 days just to get installed.  20 packs, each taking about 30 minutes?  Yeah, once that's on, it's staying on.  I guess I could create a third install directory... hmmm.

 

[Hangman]

Gurner mate you've probably seen this thread

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,34708.0.html

so what do you think about this at M4T forums one guy said that I hacked your mod what are you toughts

[Claw]

WOW. Lots going on. Yo certainly shed some light on what might be going on and raised some questions.

Are both IL-2 installations installed at C:\?  I mean not in C:\Program files\IL-2. Right? I mean I realize you have them installed in two seperate directories. As long as niether of them are in Program files on WIndows Vista and higher. It's also better if you have no spaces in the path. Like c:\il2dbw.

It's a bit of a concern that you are unable to run the il2setup utility.

You may want to try this little utility and select cores 2, 3, and 4 and no virtual cores.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=32520.0

If that utility gives an error, then you need to click Start >> and type regedit and open registry editor and find the following key

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ubi Soft\IL-2 Sturmovik 1946

Look at the REG_Z value "Directory" on the right and please report back what it says.

for your CPU, ProcessAffinityMask=12 will run on core 2 and 3 which is physically core 3 and 4 or ProcessAffinityMask=14 for core 1, 2, and 3, which is physically core 2, 3, and 4.

From the spiking your getting on your video card, it sounds like it might not be coming out of power saving mode correctly. That card should have no trouble with DBW. If IL-2 keeps resetting the resolution, it's probably because it thinks you have a very low end card. It kept doing that to me when I was running an onboard graphics card. Thats why I think your card might not be coming out of low power mode.

I don't know which chipset you have but by chance do you have Crossfire enabled?

Are you dissabling your anti virus software before you run IL-2?

When I install IL2, I install them to c:\IL2 then I patched it up to 4.10.1

Then I copied it to c:\IL2_4101

So now I have two folders. C:\IL2 and C:\IL2_4101

Then I patched the C:\IL2 folder up to 4.11.1

Then I copied it to C:\IL2_4111

Then I installed HSFX into C:\IL2

Then I made a copy of that to C:\IL2_HSFX_Clean

Then I renamed C:\IL2 to C:\IL2_HSFX_Using and copied C:\IL2_4101 to C:\IL2

Then I installed UP3\DBW to C:\IL2

Then I copied that to C:\IL2_UP3-DBW_Clean

Now, if I want to use the HSFX version, I rename C:\IL2 to C:\IL2_UP3-DBW_Using and rename C:\IL2_HSFX_Using to C:\IL2

I know this is a lot to swallow but when IL2 is installed, it makes system registry entries that look to the installation folder. If you do a second installation the registry entries change and the first installation is no longer valid in the registry. If you make a copy and run it from the new folder the registry entries are no valid for that version. In most cases, this is ok but in some cases like joystick profiles and graphics card profiles, it is not. This is one of reasons Bravo worked so hard to make everything run out of one folder without having to do what I do.

One of these days I'll get Modact on here and use the Bravo method but I spent too much time fiddling and not enough time playing but with all that crap on my 1TB hard drive with loads of room to spare, I play any version I want error free on a low end system with acceptable frame rates.

When I use the UP3\DBW version with Plutonium, I get the same frame rates you do.

When I play the HSFX version with Gurner FX 4.3, I average about 36 FPS with everything set to max and resolution set to 1400x1050 which is plenty for my 22" screen.

My System Specs

Windows XP Home SP3
P4 3.8 Ghz Hyper Threading
2 Gig DDR 400 Ram
Nvidia 7600GT

My 9800 GT will be here in a few days. I can't wait to see the frame rates for the UP3\DBW installation when It comes.

Hope this leads you in some helpful direction. Please keep us up to date on your progress.

Bob

[Gurner]

Don't get too excited, Bob - there's not an enormous difference between a 7600 and 9800...

Hangman - I improved most of the effects for train destruction in 4.3 and tested them extensively, during which time I experienced no crashes whatsoever.  Therefore I must conclude that crashes when destroying trains are not directly related to this mod.

And you can do what you want with my mod - a lot of it is or started out as other people's mods anyway, and I don't consider removing a few class files to be "hacking".