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[beercamel]

Was a crew chief on the F-4E for 9 years. It looks like there are some 3D things that need tweeking, but overall, a great start for a beta. I'll be sure to contact the template makers and see if I can help in that area also.

Where?

I Flew the F-4 from 1982 to 1990

[beercamel]

I also noticed that once in-flight, the hydraulic system remains operative despite loss of both engines due to fuel starvation. Is this intentional? Does the aircraft have a ram air scoop, or does it generate hydraulic power with an APU?

In the REAL F-4 hydraulics would work from a 'windmilling' engine down to 90 KIAS..  which was well below minimum flying speed..  The C and D model had a 'RAT' that could be deployed to provide electrical back up..   I DON'T Remember if it also applied Hydo backup..   I would have to dig pout my old F-4 manuals and check..   

[US_GRANT]

The C and D model "RAT" (Ram Air Turbine) only produced electrical power. Certain E models had an APU installed that provided hydraulic power for longitudinal control starting with acft No. 69-304 and up, although 68-452 thru 69-303 were retrofitted.

[HundertzehnGustav]

what was that APU fed with? special fuel?

no fuel in tanks but special fuel for aPU?
how was it pumped when the engines were dead ? using RAT?

Complex Bird... compley systems.
INTERESTING systems.

[US_GRANT]

The APU pump is electrically driven.
This will give you a more detailed description for the APU. Info starts on page 28.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49325041/1979-T-O-1F-4E-1-Flight-Manual-USAF-Series-F-4E-Aircraft

[US_GRANT]

Was a crew chief on the F-4E for 9 years. It looks like there are some 3D things that need tweeking, but overall, a great start for a beta. I'll be sure to contact the template makers and see if I can help in that area also.

Where?

I Flew the F-4 from 1982 to 1990

That's pretty funny beercamel because I crewed them from 82-90

[beercamel]

Was a crew chief on the F-4E for 9 years. It looks like there are some 3D things that need tweeking, but overall, a great start for a beta. I'll be sure to contact the template makers and see if I can help in that area also.

Where?

I Flew the F-4 from 1982 to 1990

That's pretty funny beercamel because I crewed them from 82-90

My F-4 'Fini Flight'  was a pick up on Midway Island. The jet had diverted there after a failed AAR.. I went to Midway at the behest of 2nd ADG, Fixed the jet with the help of two outstanding wrench benders from Clark AFB..  FCF'ed the jet... and sat for 27 days waiting for a tanker..   Felt like Gilligan.. except WITHOUT Ginger and Mary Ann...   The Tanker eventually showed and I flew my last two F-4 sorties from Midway to Anderson AFB on Guam.. then to Korea to deliver the jet to the ROK Air Force...It was rather sad as I signed the Forms..  knowing I was finished with the F-4 forever.. or more 'correctly' spelled.. 'Phorever'...  Six months later I went F-16 RTU..

[US_GRANT]

I started working F-4s in Oct 81 with FTD at Moody AFB,GA. Went to Spangdhalem AB, West Germany (at the time). After PCSing from there to Seymour Johnson AFB, NC, I worked them until Aug 90 just before Desert Shield kicked off. Started FTD for the F-15E, but finished out the F-4 in Oct then went to OJT on the F-15E full time and said goodbye to my last F-4, 74-0166 in Dec 90.

[razor1uk]

Phew and Woah! just wnet through all posts til this page 30, I will try out later muhuahahah.
Just one idiotic (more likely..) query, might all the fixes, tweeks, related WIP updates are contained/sorted/plugged in to the the '1st' Post download?

[fishfingers]

Dammit, I'm pretty sure I followed the install instructions to the book and i'm receiving a 70% Crash to desktop with the plane . I disabled the air.ini lines with double dashes in front and it stops crashing. Anyone way to correct it without having to use backup? I must have the phantom

[S3231541]

I extracted everything into the #DWB folder and its not showing up in game.

Is there some step I missed? This is the latest version of both DWB and the F4. Are there steps Im supposed to follow other than just extracting files?

to install this plane follow these steps.
1. put the _00_F-4 Phantom II and 00000_000_NoOpenCanopyAI folder into your #DBW folder. By Folder I mean really have to be folder, no rar or anything else.
Inside _00_F-4 Phantom there must be a 3do and some classfiles, inside 00000_000_NoOpenCanopyAI there are 2 classfile. If you place the folder the wrong way then it will cause 70% crash.
2. go to "your il2 main folder"\#DBW\STD\com\maddox\il2\objects.
3. open the file labelled "Air"
4. copy and paste the following lines in anywhere beneath where it says "[AIR]"
here are the lines:
F-4B              air.F_4B 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4D              air.F_4D 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4E              air.F_4E 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
F-4J              air.F_4J 2                            NOINFO  usa01 SUMMER
5. OPTIONAL (if this step confuses you, skip it)
in "your il2 main folder"\#DBW\STD\i18n, open the plane_ru. copy and past the following lines anywhere into it.
here are the lines:
F-4B                 F-4B, 1960
F-4D                 F-4D, 1966
F-4E                 F-4E, 1967
F-4J                 F-4J, 1967
NOTE: feel free to change the last section to whatever you want. these entries effect what the plane will be labelled in the game. the first part identifies which plane you are talking about, and the second part effects it's actual name. for example if you wanted to call the F-4J "my favorite plane", you would simply change the line for the F-4J to:
F-4J                 my favorite plane
plane_ru lines are often featured in mods, yet they are never necessary. the same goes for weapons_ru lines, although this plane doesn't have any.
6. start DBW
7. yay
hope this helped.
these are the basic steps for installing a plane. pretty much any mod aircraft you find will be installed this way. the air.ini method can be a hassle, so if you get a 70% CTD (crash to desktop), make sure you added the lines right.

[fishfingers]

You sir....are a godsend. I spent 3 hours trying to figure out what was wrong, turns out the install guide for aircraft sort of mislead me and I didn't put the entire mod folder into DBW. Thank you soo much.