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[BT~Tarik]

sorry i thought it was the 109's...and it really looks similar.
and according to the first post

No major modification was made to the 109K4

...and would this MBV155 withstand 980 kmh ? I mean it would probably be similar to the 109 (at least that's what it looks like) which breaks up at...oh shit I tested and it does withstand this speed  tested it diving from 10K meters with full power and I reached mach 1 (1191 at 4000meters) when it broke up (well I didn't get past mach 1...).

So it might be able to be that fast...though I'm sure there would be serious buffeting and vibrations (like seen in some jets when coming around the 1000kmh mark).

[.50calBMG]

I don't know, maybe they had laminar flow wings. I bet that helped increase the planes top speed

[Red_Fox90]

In my opinion something like what happened with the Yak-3/Yak-15 would have been more reasonable, considering that "so many modifications to the various components would be needed that no time would be gained over the Me 262 development", as i've read at the Luft46 site.
This could be done by modifying the 109G or K version, replacing all the frontal section with the engine and fuel tanks with a new nose section, consisting of a single Jumo 004 jet and fuel tanks.

Doing some counts based on comparision with the Yakovlevs 3/15 (and so with no absolute whatsoever scientific value of course ) a single engined jet 109, could have attained a max speed of 873km/h, with an empty weight of 2394kg and a loaded weight of 3307kg. But the combat range would have been of only 462km, that could maybe raised with the use of a pair of droptanks under the wings.

Moreover the single engined solution would have proved more smart, as this variant was intended only as a secondary solution to the Me-262, and so it would have made no sense to take away from the schwalbe production all those engines.

What do you think?

[RealDarko]

One engine? I asume you are talking about the Jumo 004 I'm curious about your proposal.
Anyway, the two engine variant is very interesting, and look reasoneable easy to do.

[.50calBMG]

Athough the post is about the double engined one, I am curious as to the single engined one, so either one would be nice. And you prove a good point. The 162 was the single engined replacement for the 262. I've actually got a pic of a single engined plane that looks similar.

[Vampire_pilot]

the main reason this project was not pushed further was that after some calculations it showed that the 109 frame would not withstand the forces that where anticipated with the aimed-for speeds, not even close. So a massive rework in every aspect would have meant too much effort to be put into this on a first glace cheap and asy to design airplane.
Even then it would have never outperformed any purpose build jet fighter.

nonetheless a nice idea for a franken. Me-109 with a new nose and the straight wings of the Arado, something like that.

[BT~Tarik]

the main reason this project was not pushed further was that after some calculations it showed that the 109 frame would not withstand the forces that where anticipated with the aimed-for speeds, not even close.

Just what I said 

[RealDarko]

Again, AFAIK the 109 frame is not the frame that would have been used.

[.50calBMG]

just checking up to see if anybody is working on this. anyone?

[Roger Smith]

The Horton doesn't count. It's absurd and survivability goes out the window when the engine fails.

how does it not count? It's still a jet. Me-262 used the same engine as the Go-229, and the Go-229 engines are toward the center of the plane while Me-262 are in the middle of the wings. You'd have to use some serious rudder to get a single engine Me-262 to go straight and a snowball's chance in hell of surviving a dogfight

[RealDarko]

Please move this "FM what if" discussions out of a proper request post.
Thanks.

[The_Jester]

Removed mine. I won't continue elsewhere.