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Author Topic: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N V3 FINAL + HOTFIX  (Read 68268 times)

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henkypenky

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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #48 on: April 25, 2010, 04:55:14 AM »

Many thanks Karaya, the N realy filled a gap. It would be even nicer if you could indeed use the visiual M model for the time being.
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2010, 10:30:46 AM »

This is awesome. Thanks guys!  ;D
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2010, 01:44:30 PM »

I believe VH-Rock has a proper P-40N in the works with the cut-out rear cockpit.

Well, technically using an M model would be a proper N with the N type FM... lol, since as said before the opened up rear canopy wasn't introduced until the N-5.  It would need only 4 guns though...

From JBaugher's excellent website:

"The first production block was the P-40N-1-CU. It appeared in March of 1943, still powered by the Allison V-1710-81 engine, but with 122 gallons of internal fuel and a generally lighter structure than its predecessors. With weight reduced to 6000 pounds empty, 7400 pounds gross, and 8850 pounds maximum, the N-1 was the fastest P-40 service variant and was intended for high altitude combat. Maximum speed was 378 mph at 10,500 feet and service ceiling was 38,000 feet. An altitude of 15,000 feet could be attained in 6.7 minutes. Armament consisted of four 0.50-inch machine guns in the wings. Four hundred P-40N-1-CUs were built.

The P-40N-5-CU variant introduced a modified cockpit canopy with a frameless sliding hood and a deeper, squared-off rectangular aft transparent section to improve the rearward view. This cockpit canopy was retained for all the rest of the production blocks of the N version. The N-5 version restored the full six-gun wing armament, since pilots had complained that four guns were insufficient. Underwing racks were fitted for bombs or drop tanks, increasing external stores capacity to 1500 pounds. The new heavier gross weight of 8350 pounds limited top speed to 350 mph at 16,400 feet and service ceiling to 31,000 feet. An altitude of 14,000 feet could be attained in 7.3 minutes. Range was 340 miles with a 500-pound bomb underneath the fuselage. Three drop tanks promised a ferry range of up to 3100 miles at 198 mph. "
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2010, 03:31:51 AM »

Cheers for the info! I could never follow the production timeline of the P-40, since they introduced soo many minor changes as they went. Later model P-40Fs for example recieved the extended tail, but many were converted to P-40Ls, adding to the whole confusion about which Merlin model originally got the longer tail!
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2010, 05:51:15 AM »

No sweat Anto, http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p40.html, has a mountain of P-40 information.  As for the Fs and Ls issue, he has this to say.

"The first 699 planes of the P-40F series had no dash numbers, since the production block designation system was not yet in effect. The dash numbers were first used with the P-40F-5-CU model, which introduced a fuselage elongated from 31 feet 2 inches to 33 feet 4 inches in order to improve directional stability. This longer fuselage was retained in all later P-40 versions. The P-40F-10-CUs had manual instead of electrically-operated cowl flap controls. The P-40F-15-CUs had winterizing equipment, and the P-40F-20-CUs had a revised oxygen flow system for the pilot. A radio mast was fitted to late production P-40Fs."

And for the Ls:
"The P-40L (Model 87-B3) was basically a "stripped" version of the Merlin-powered P-40F-5-CU, in which 250 pounds of weight was saved by the partial removal of fuel, armament, and other equipment. The P-40L was otherwise virtually identical to the Merlin-powered P-40F-5-CU. Some of the P-40L production blocks featured planes with reduced armament and smaller capacity fuel tanks in order to obtain even more reduced weight and even better performance. The L-model was sometimes known as the "Gipsy Rose Lee", after the famous strip-tease dancer of the time."

So, that to me says that the F got the longer tail first :) since the L was derived from the longer tailed F.  http://www.joebaugher.com/uscombataircraft.html this site has scores of information on US ac, all documented and sourced.  I've been using it heavily to compile my master list of AC that can be easily added to the game with only minor 3d modeling and FM tweaking.  If you'd like it I could send along what I have so far to you, it's 11 pages so far... just have to apply some finishing touches on P-35 variants but it's mostly done I think.
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2010, 03:55:41 AM »

Hi, another question from me; if you'r updating the 'N' can you add 2 x 500lb + droptank load? I've seen photo's of such a load in Dutch Profile nr 10, which also has some nice artwork on NEI P-40's. Check it out on http://www.dutchprofile.nl/index.php?template=home

There are a number of NEI skins available at http://www.1java.org/index.php  :)
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #54 on: May 03, 2010, 02:53:11 AM »

Hi'
Hope we are getting a nice "L" version ;@)
Benno
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2010, 07:10:41 AM »

How's the visual "N-5" version comin?
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #56 on: September 01, 2010, 02:17:43 PM »

Hi, @ Karaya; is there any chance you can change the use the default M model for the N version in stead of the E?
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #57 on: November 28, 2010, 12:06:17 PM »

is this mod usable with ultra pack 2.01?
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #58 on: November 28, 2010, 03:13:31 PM »

Hi, @ Karaya; is there any chance you can change the use the default M model for the N version in stead of the E?

I'll see what I can do...
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Re: P-40F/L (Packard Merlin V-1650-1) & P-40N v2
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2010, 05:02:41 AM »

Karaya:
Please, please, please.
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