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Pokemon156

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Daimler-Benz project A-F
« on: April 16, 2012, 08:03:30 PM »

Project A
    This was the first of several designs for a massive carrier aircraft. The DB Project "A I", as the carrier aircraft was known, had a straight wing with taper and a slight dihedral on the outer wing sections. Four or six He S 021 turboprops were mounted on pylons that were mounted on the wing leading edge. The undercarraige was of a fixed arrangement, with a wide 24.97 m (82') track, and contained three wheels on each leg. The DB Project "A II" twin-jet bomber was slung under the "A I" carrier and was carried aloft to conserve the "A II" jet bomber's fuel. It was then released after nearing the target. The "A II" bomber had sharply swept back wings and tailplanes, with two BMW 018 turbojets mounted beneath the wings, much like the Me 262. A crew of three or four sat in a pressurized cockpit located in the extreme nose of the bomber. A V-tail was fitted to help the bomber mount under the carrier aircraft more easily, A bomb load of 30000 kg (66000 lbs) was envisioned.


A I Carrier               Span: 94 m (308' 7.6")              Length: Unknown          Max. Speed: Unknown
A II Bomber            Span: 26.16 m (85' 10.7")         Length: Unknown          Max. Speed: 1000 km/h (621 mph)


Project B
   This was a revised design of the Daimler Benz Project "A" carrier aircraft and parasite jet bomber. The wing was straight with a taper on the outer wing leading edge, and featured pronounced anhedral on the inner wing sections and dihedral outboard of the landing gear. Six DB 603 piston engines provided the power, four pulling and two pushing. The high, fixed landing gear was located beneath the outboard engine nacelles, and had three wheels partially enclosed in the landing gear legs. The high, fixed landing gear and the anhedral gave the proper clearance to mount the parasite bomber beneath the carrier aircraft. The bomber featured sharply swept back wings and tailplanes, the latter also having pronounced dihedral and twin fins and rudders, much like the Henschel 132 (see three-view drawing below). Power was provided by a single, huge Daimler Benz DB S 06 jet engine (mounted on the top centerline of the fuselage), which was to supply 12930 kg (28446 lbs) of thrust. A crew of two sat in the pressurized cockpit that was located in the extreme nose of the bomber. 30000 kg (66000 lbs) of bombs was the projected bomb load.


Project "B" Carrier aircraft       Span: 54 m (177' 2")               Length: 35.8 m (117' 5.45")             Max. Speed: Unknown
Project "B" Jet Bomber            Span: 22 m (72' 2.14")            Length: 30.75 m (100' 10.63")         Max. Speed: Unknown

Project C
    This design dates from early 1945, and was also to be a carrier aircraft (like the Daimler Benz Project "A"). The Daimler Benz Project "C" was basically the Daimler Benz Project "B" without the single jet engine bomber attached. The wing was straight with a taper on the outer wing leading edge, and featured pronounced anhedral on the inner wing sections and dihedral outboard of the high, fixed landing gear. Six DB 603 piston engines provided the power, four pulling and two pushing. There were two different parasite manned missiles that could be carried by this aircraft, the Daimler Benz Project "E" and the Daimler Benz Project "F".


             Span: 54 m (177' 2")               Length: 35.8 m (117' 5.45")             Max. Speed: Unknown

Project E
    The Daimler Benz Project "E" was designed as a piloted missile to be launched from the Daimler Benz Project "C" carrier aircraft. Five of these manned missiles could be carried at one time (see diagram below). The wings and tailplanes were swept back sharply, and power was supplied by a single He S 011 jet engine mounted on the bottom aft of the fuselage. 2500 kg (5500 lbs) of explosives were located in the nose of the aircraft, which were detonated on impact. Once carried aloft by the carrier aircraft, the DB Project "E" aircraft were then released near the target, with the pilot then choosing his target and then diving towards it. When the pilot was assured of a hit, he was to escape using the ejection seat. Although this aircraft wasn't officially considered a suicide plane, the pilot probably had a very small chance of survival, due to the speed of the aircraft in the attack and the proximity to the target when ejecting.


                     Span: 8.5 m (27' 10.6")                Length: 9.2 m (30' 2.2")                Max. Speed: Unknown


    The Daimler Benz Project "F" was designed as a piloted missile to be launched from the Daimler Benz Project "C" carrier aircraft. Six of these manned missiles could be carried at one time (see diagram below). The wings and tailplanes were swept back sharply, and power was supplied by a single BMW 018 jet engine. 3000 kg (6600 lbs) of explosives were located in the nose of the aircraft, which were detonated on impact. Once carried aloft by the carrier aircraft, the DB Project "F" aircraft were then released near the target, with the pilot then choosing his target and then diving towards it. When the pilot was assured of a hit, he was to escape by a hatch located beneath the cockpit (see diagram below). Although this aircraft wasn't officially considered a suicide plane, the pilot probably had a very small chance of survival, due to the speed of the aircraft in the attack and the proximity to the target when escaping.


                     Span: 9 m (29' 6.33")                Length: 12.96 m (42' 6.24")                Max. Speed: 1050 km/h (652 mph)

I'd put pictures but i have no clue how.. wait


Project C w/ F



Project C

awesome right?  ;)







did i break the record for longest info list? ;D


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Re: daimler-benz project A-F
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 03:06:39 PM »

These are one of my favorite 'what if' flying aircraft carrier.  To me, these would have been potentially very useful if used in Luftwaffe for any aircraft with limited range.  I would have loved to fly these in IL- 2 1946.  I would have used these to carry any of luftwaffe 46" small interceptor/fighter/attack aircraft.  Imagine formation of flying aircraft carrier with small fighter/interceptor loaded in each of them?  They would lease the hell through skies.  I personally see it as vastly useful for carrying any fighter/interceptor/attack small aircraft over range and release them to attack targets then return back to base as 'one way stop" as alternative role for these flying aircraft carrier.

And by the way, I have great three view plans on these aircraft so I am adding them here soon!


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Re: daimler-benz project A-F
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 03:09:22 PM »

Here are very detailed, huge images of three view plans, click on these thumbnails to see a enlarged pictures:










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Re: Daimler-Benz project A-F
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 03:29:02 PM »

These pictures are from Luftwaffe Secret Projects Ground Attack and Special Purpose Aircraft by Dieter Herwig and Heinz Rode, and please keep in mind, these images are only for reference of this aircraft specifically for this thread only!








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Re: Daimler-Benz project A-F
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2012, 08:33:35 PM »

How could me and Chaoic be the only ones who want to see this in il-2 ??  :(
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Re: Daimler-Benz project A-F
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2012, 11:11:46 PM »

How could me and Chaoic be the only ones who want to see this in il-2 ??  :(

Never assume we are only one, there are other that would love to see any 'what if' 1946 aircraft in IL-2 1946.  Even Col. King, dkg196, and other SAS friends of mine feel the same thing about IL-2 1946 with 1946" what if' aircraft as part of IL-2 1946.

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