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Paulo Hirth

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2012, 12:59:40 PM »

 I am trying image the 309 FM, have a very aerodinamic lines, low air retention.

 
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2013, 02:46:27 AM »

 
  Nice plane!



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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2013, 02:38:44 PM »

neat!
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2013, 09:05:03 PM »

Well, I would favour a Me-309 over any 50kbillionst variant of a Bf-109 or Spitfire or Yak...just because it looks great.

And you can´t compare a Heinkel Lerche to the Me-309. Two totally different types of aircraft. There were 4 prototypes of the 309, so this plane was actualy flying!

I would love to see this plane ingame rather than a F-16, F-14 or F-4 (don´t misunderstand my, the Phantom is brilliant and I enjoy to fly it, but I´m just not that much interested in it), for the same reasons I would love to see a He-177, or He-274, or He-277, and so on...just because they are cool ^^
I mostly agree but I still like most variants of the Bf109, Spitfire or Yak etc. but I do agree comparing the Heinkel Lerche to the Me309 is totally different. Prototypes that flew instead of fanasty stuff is what I like to see. Also I like to see, prefer more WW2 era (including Spanish civil war, over China late 30's), Korean Air war aircraft that are still missing - specially WW2 era ie. G3M Nell, He177, Stirling, Hampden, Helldiver, Ki-32, Martin Baker, + so much more floatplanes, flying boats etc. etc. 8) instead of what if's and modern jets ;) (after Vietnam ie. F-16 etc. (HUD, missiles etc.because il-2 doesn't cater to all that goes along with it! Play Lock on DCS, or third wire jet series for that!) It's my taste. ;D Still that's up to the mod creator but at least the Me309 was actually made but SAS Anto is right on its performance being so, so thats why it was dropped. Nice request. Cheers :)
Corrected Spanish HotelAlpha200 :)
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #28 on: May 27, 2013, 09:07:56 PM »

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I think you mean Spanish?


But this plane really looks promising. Looks clean and fast. A real good choice for a request!
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #29 on: May 27, 2013, 09:37:10 PM »

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2014, 03:53:44 PM »

Hi  :)
Is there someone who would be willing and able to recreate Messerschmitt Me 309?
Just look at this beauty:


Info from Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_309):

The Messerschmitt Me 309 was a prototype German fighter designed in the early years of World War II to replace the Bf 109. Although it had many advanced features, the Me 309's performance left much to be desired and it suffered from so many problems that the project was cancelled with only four prototypes built. The Me 309 was one of two failed Messerschmitt projects intended to replace the aging Bf 109, the other being the Me 209 of 1943.

Design and development

The Me 309 project began in mid-1940, just as the Bf 109 was having its first encounters with the Spitfire in the Battle of Britain, the first aircraft to match the 109 in speed and performance. Already, Messerschmitt anticipated the need for an improved design to replace the Bf 109. The Reich Air Ministry, however, did not feel the same urgency, with the project given a low priority resulting in the design not being finalized until the end of 1941.

The new fighter had many novel features, such as tricycle landing gear (with a nose gear strut that twisted through 90° during retraction, to a "flat" orientation under the engine) and a pressurized cockpit, which would have given it more comfortable and effective high-altitude performance. Each of the new features was first tested on a number of Bf 109F airframes, the V23 having a ventral radiator, the V31 with radiator and tricycle landing gear, and the V30 having a pressurized cockpit.

Low government interest in the project delayed completion of the first prototype until spring 1942, and trouble with the nose wheel pushed back the 309's first flight to July. When it did fly, the Me 309's performance was satisfactory – about 50 km/h (30 mph) faster than a standard Bf 109G – but not exemplary. In fact, the Bf 109G could out-turn its intended replacement. With the addition of armament, the aircraft's speed decreased to an unacceptable level. In light of its poor performance and the much more promising development of the Focke-Wulf Fw 190D, the Me 309 was canceled.

In 1943, Messerchmitt made one last attempt at creating a replacement for the Bf 109 in the form of the Me 209-II. It was essentially a modification of the existing 109 airframe, Messerschmitt designers not wanting to invest the time and trouble in a new design like the Me 309.

Specifications:

Data from Die Deutsche Luftrüstung 1933-1945

General characteristics

    Crew: 1
    Length: 9.46 m (31 ft 0 in)
    Wingspan: 11.04 m (36 ft 3 in)
    Height: 3.9 m (12 ft 10 in)
    Wing area: 16.6 m2 (179 sq ft)
    Empty weight: 3,530 kg (7,782 lb)
    Gross weight: 4,250 kg (9,370 lb)
    Powerplant: 1 × Daimler-Benz DB 603G inverted V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 1,287 kW (1,726 hp)

Performance

    Maximum speed: 733 km/h (455 mph; 396 kn)
    Cruising speed: 665 km/h (413 mph; 359 kn)
    Range: 1,100 km (684 mi; 594 nmi)
    Service ceiling: 12,000 m (39,370 ft)
    Wing loading: 256 kg/m2 (52 lb/sq ft)
    Power/mass: 0.31 kW/kg (0.19 hp/lb)

Armament

    Guns:
    2 × 15 mm (.59 in) MG 151 cannon
    3 × 13 mm (.51 in) MG 131 machine guns


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P.S. I hope that all parameters for good request were met (I was never good in writing rules...  :-[  :P ).
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »

I feel like I've seen this in the WIP thread before, but I know that there are some skins for the P-39 and P-63 that emulate it fairly well.
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2014, 05:40:21 PM »

The similar Me-509 is on my 'Luft 46 to-do list - close enough?
-Matt
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2014, 07:48:54 AM »

   Hello 3D experts! Don't forget this nice plane!
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2014, 01:09:25 PM »




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Re: Messerschmitt Me 309
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2015, 10:06:29 AM »

Damn...it's been nearly 10 months that the topic hasn't moved...How can you do this to this magnificent warbird ! He's looking at you through the window,sadly,despairately...begging for a gentle modder ti build it again,so it can fly in our computers...

How yeah, I meant :

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