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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 FM
« Reply #420 on: July 23, 2015, 02:19:23 PM »

I have a few comments on the MiG-19S - FM version 3.0 as compared to the previous version of the aircraft behaves very much, otherwise again there are problems with the landing, the landing flaps extended to act as airbrakes. - [
When the "managed" I landed, the left landing gear fell off, in spite of this plane did not crash and became as if the chassis was complete.
I have a question if anyone noticed it too, and that will be no changes to the FM.
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P.S. In my opinion the best FM was in version 2.1.

Well, fully extended flaps mean a lot of drag...
As for gear - I'll check it tomorrow too. (I hope I'll get to finishing my modes though... :) )

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Koty


Thank Koty
I noticed a pattern in the MiG-19 that after each improvement mod, you need to improve FM, for either plane is like a brick, or landing, during an miracles happen, or immediately kamikaze.  8)
Thank you for your interest.
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Seb
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #421 on: July 23, 2015, 03:44:32 PM »

this plane seem to me very easy to land

do you think that it need more flaps lift?
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #422 on: July 24, 2015, 05:58:05 AM »

this plane seem to me very easy to land

do you think that it need more flaps lift?

Maybe less drag...
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #423 on: July 24, 2015, 06:58:12 AM »

this plane seem to me very easy to land

do you think that it need more flaps lift?

Maybe less drag...


As for me, the MiG-19 was always the most difficult to land, there were problems with the F-8 and A-7, but Vega porawi? in these planes FM. With the MiG-19 zauwarzy?em that with every new version are problems with FM, and above all a landing which were then removed. In the previous version I manage to land without flaps at a speed of 330 km / h, or with flaps for landing at a speed of 220 km / h. Landing without flaps succeeded, the flaps do not. Now almost did not manage to land.
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #424 on: July 24, 2015, 07:41:16 AM »

Well, I was not able to change the root mesh for the gear clip, so I see two options - new 3D (which would need changes in code as well) or adding some line in code that would turn the clip false...

Or just land it softer ;)

As for bad behavior of flaps, I will test it.
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #425 on: July 24, 2015, 08:10:51 AM »

Guys....i land without problems at 230 km/h

You had to manage power in the right way, maybe you need only to change your approach

Anyway, i will see if is a matter to upgrade pack again
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #426 on: July 24, 2015, 08:52:56 AM »

Guys....i land without problems at 230 km/h

You had to manage power in the right way, maybe you need only to change your approach

Anyway, i will see if is a matter to upgrade pack again

I tried to land just like you described and ended up as a fireball.  :\'(
In other jets I'm doing, and do not give advice.
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #427 on: July 24, 2015, 09:24:45 AM »

Guys....i land without problems at 230 km/h

You had to manage power in the right way, maybe you need only to change your approach

Anyway, i will see if is a matter to upgrade pack again

I tried to land just like you described and ended up as a fireball.  :\'(
In other jets I'm doing, and do not give advice.
seb

just a quick demo

https://www.mediafire.com/download/xb0bv1b52y4e88q/Mig_19_landing_sample.ntrk

if you have similar mods installed you should be able to see nice the track

anyway, you had to approach at 260 at 75/80% of power, and reduce a bit when near ground
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #428 on: July 24, 2015, 10:06:29 AM »

Thanks for the video tutorial.
I looked and I will experiment.
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #429 on: July 25, 2015, 10:22:00 AM »

Hi Vega.
Once again, thank you for this video.
Since yesterday I fly the MiG-19 and your method of testing a landing.
During these tests, I found that the MiG-19 very nicely lands without suspended weapons (rockets, bombs) when I tried to land with two rockets plane crashes, besides zauwarzy?em that the MiG-19 with weapons outside is not able to reach supersonic speed.
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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #430 on: July 25, 2015, 10:28:53 AM »

ah.......i will check landing with weapons

Supersonic speeds with rockets are possible but not at all altitudes

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Re: MIG-19 V3.0 (15/07/2015) -
« Reply #431 on: July 25, 2015, 10:32:18 AM »

ah.......i will check landing with weapons

Supersonic speeds with rockets are possible but not at all altitudes

I remember that in one of the earlier version of the FM has already performed a problem with the landing of an aircraft with weapons outside.
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