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butch

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Random spacing in vehicle columns
« on: May 30, 2012, 10:03:52 PM »

Is it possible to randomise the distance between trucks? currently they all travel uniformly with equal distance separating each vehicle. Looks really fake.
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 10:12:12 PM »

 :D
But its real, regardless of what you think it looks like.

That sort of thing is covered under unit/theater SOP's.
Convoy spacing is set to address the area threats. It is fairly strictly observed.
There are times when the spacing may "accordion" in and out, but for the most part the convoy speed/interval are set.
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 12:08:07 AM »

That is true, to a point. And that's what we trained at when I was in the Army, at least when we had to drag out on our movement from a to B, driving around, stopping at intervals so the CO could check the spacing.

Still, I think this is a good request, as it would make the columns look more realistic. Because keeping even space 100% is tough - my unit never managed that...  ;D
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 12:36:05 AM »

lol, what the AI lack in the air, they make up for on the ground...:D
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 01:27:56 AM »

In my Mods "vehicles" I put bigger distances between certain vehicles to annoy the pilots who would roam in heavens...  :P ..
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 07:59:34 AM »

It is not posible to randomize the distance, the distance is defined per vehicle in the technics.ini, so all vehicles of that kind will keep the same distance.
But you can make convoys look a lot more realistic, by editing each vehicle independently:

Look for the convoy you want to change in the chief.ini and see what vehicles make up the convoy. Then lookup these vehicles in the technics.ini.
You will find an entry "best space" at the vehicle entry.
This is the space the vehicle will keep between itself and the vehicle in front. I changed this to value 32.0 as it seems more natural to me (in real time vehicles don't tend to drive to close together, especially when containing ammo and an air threat exists).

If you mix up the vehicle types in the columns (chief.ini) you can create gaps in your columns (eg give the jeep a best space of 50 and place one between a load of trucks).
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 08:33:18 AM »

Hey that's good to know. Increasing the distance to 100 meters would make it way better.
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 08:42:08 AM »

but decreasing it to 2 meters would making straffing runs more effective.
and with a fuel truck in the column...
:) me like.
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2012, 01:48:33 PM »

It is not posible to randomize the distance, the distance is defined per vehicle in the technics.ini, so all vehicles of that kind will keep the same distance.
But you can make convoys look a lot more realistic, by editing each vehicle independently:

Look for the convoy you want to change in the chief.ini and see what vehicles make up the convoy. Then lookup these vehicles in the technics.ini.
You will find an entry "best space" at the vehicle entry.
This is the space the vehicle will keep between itself and the vehicle in front. I changed this to value 32.0 as it seems more natural to me (in real time vehicles don't tend to drive to close together, especially when containing ammo and an air threat exists).

If you mix up the vehicle types in the columns (chief.ini) you can create gaps in your columns (eg give the jeep a best space of 50 and place one between a load of trucks).

OK so you can change the distance in Cheif.ini. Thats cool.
But are you also saying that in the Cheif.ini it is possible to insert vehicles of your choice into a column?
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2012, 02:45:09 PM »

yes... or take an existing column and make it much longer... :)
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 05:00:31 PM »

Another fairly easy way to make convoys is in the FMB and MIS file. 

There's an example for a 'river barge' convoy here:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,19518.24.html

It looks more complicated than it is in practice, very flexible and good for 'one-off' convoys you're not going to use again.

That is really cool. I love the look of those big ships up on the shore. I'll have to get my head around that and give it a go!
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Re: Random spacing in vehicle columns
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2012, 03:36:57 AM »

I changed the "bestspace" in nearly all the entries of the 'Technics' file, but it crashed at 70%.
I may have mucked up an entry by mistake or is it possible to of put in an increment beyound the allowable spectrum?
For example I changed some entries quite a bit - from 12m to 66m.
On my secound attempt I changed only some of the entries, and was successful. But I would like to change more.
This leads me to think that someone has probably already altered their 'Technics' file for this. If so, they may want to share it...would be very grateful.
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