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[CALINHO]

Vega, does the new F-8 require any additional mod? I cannot see the full loadout list (none of the AGMs are displaying). Last weapon in the list is 8xMK82SnakeEye+8xZuni.

Nevertheless the autopilots work fine.

Log does not show anything strange.

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[4S_Vega]

ok guys, i will see what happen!

[CALINHO]

Vega, is possible load F-8 with AIM-9C? Jetwar have this AAM

Wikipedia pic of Crusader: (Top: AIM-9A; Bottom: AIM-9C)



The AIM-9C is on the upper rail and the 9D on the lower.

[Dahlberg]

How do get all the fancy stuff at the bottom like in your screenshots?

[SAS~GJE52]

Hi,

I am running:

4.12.2m + SASModAct5 + JetEra1.33 + SAS Engine MOD v2.7

 I have loaded the Skyhawks and added your upgrade but do not get the full loadout options, have I missed something ?

G;

[Dahlberg]

Am I supposed to these upgrades to the mods folder or to the mod itself?

[SAS~Tom2]

Dahlberg:
As for the Mig-21 new FM file, use it (after backing the old one up) to overwrite the one in the "Mig-21" mod folder.
I assume same for all new files, in the dedicated mod folder or as the naming convention suggests.
E.g. a folder with various FM files in it would rather go straight into the "Mods" / "#SAS" / "#DBW" folder.
A singular fix rather into the dedicated mod...

[wagslead]

S! Vega, (edited this after further investigation - please excuse my earlier confusion.)

SAS~Monty27 suggested I visit your thread here and I am so pleased that he did so!  I have recently implemented Monty's TFM-412 and believe it is almost like a new sim when compared to earlier versions of IL2 (and I have used them all over the years).  I mentioned to Monty that some of the FM's for the jets were not very realistic, hence his direction to me that I visit this thread.

I would like to assist in remedying FM issues in several jet aircraft in TFM-412.  (Edit: After reviewing the FM files for the A-4 and F-8 a/c in TFM-412, I found that your FM's are already there.  I must assume that the same is true for the other jets.  Would you consider some input to these FM's from someone with a fair amount of actual time in them?) 

For example, the A-4 FM misrepresents actual speedbrake operation for the various A-4 versions - i.e. the speed brake deploys automatically between between 400 and 500 KIAS depending on model.  This did not occur in the real a/c.  There was no auto deployment of the speedbrake on any of the many fighters I flew.  There are also flying qualities and performance issues with the F-8's, F-86's, the F-4's and probably others as well. 

I hope I can speak with a bit of authority as I have over 4,600 hours in jet fighters, including 2,000+ in various F-4 versions and 1,000+ hours in several A-4 models.  I flew the F-4 for two tours during Vietnam and was an experimental test pilot for the USMC (F/A-18) in the last four years before I retired.  I was privileged to fly a wide variety of a/c during my 26 years in the cockpit, although some instances were just evaluations with fewer than 10 hours in each type.)

If I can be of any help, please let me know.  I can assist those who know how to modify FM files by then evaluating those modifications against real a/c performance, but I am hopeless at writing code. Someone more knowledgeable than me (such as you are!) needs to do the actual FM development.  Just as when I was a real test pilot, I can evaluate the result of the real engineering work and suggest next steps.

I'll continue to check this thread as I truly appreciate what you and others here are doing to make the more modern a/c perform as they should.

S!

Wagslead

[wagslead]

Further edit to my previous post: I failed to mention that the speedbrake on the A-4 Skyhawk does not include spoilers deploying on top of the wing and flaps deploying to full down as well as the actual (realistic) speedbrake located well aft of the wing on either side of the fuselage.  I can't even imagine what the deceleration would be like with deployment as depicted in the current A-4 FM at 400 to 500 KIAS.  Suffice it to say it would be like heaving out an anchor and line attached to a motorcycle doing 60 mph.

I would love to see this and other FQ&P issues addressed and am willing to do whatever I can to assist to achieve that end.

Thank you,

Wagslead

[SAS~Tom2]

Wagslead, your fighter jet vita and listed planes flown are nothing short from the most impressive I've read over my past 6 years of forum activity. Sadly enough this sim has its limits, and modern jets beyond the Korean era are one of these limits, as far as realism is concerned (IMO). Glad to have you on the forum! We have a few more ex military pilots here BTW.
IMHO to date the best modelled Mach 1+ capable jets are the Mig-21 family jets.

Cheers

Tom

[trockengranulat]

is the fix for the f 100 suber sabre only provisionally because it was urgently needed, or makes it the plane so realistic as possible?

[4S_Vega]

hi all!

i'm back and now i should have enough time to dedicate to modding

i should start with FM (overheat and drag) fixing for 4.12