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[Spitwulf]

Thanks for the fix, Birdman!

[flying_dutchman]

I am a total newbie in DBW since I have downloaded the DBW 1.71 a month ago and experimenting with the new mod planes that can be added to the DBW 1.71 pack. I am an Indian by nationality and as a former colony of the British Empire was always interested in British planes. I have recently added the Blenheim Sarja I and after copying the Blienheim MkIF cockpit fix to make It compatible with the Tryl's cockpit (Pe-2 cockpit) I found it is not at all historically correct since the Instrument Panel is incorrect and there is no folding seat(near the nose) for the Navigator/Bomber and also no seat provided for him adjacent to the pilot. Also the Night fighter MkIF was modified from MkI and also had a short nosed fuselage  with its upper front glazing all at one angle in the form of a "stepless cockpit", that used no separate windscreen panels for the pilot. But the Tryl's cockpit is just the opposite. I think Ranwer's cockpit is much better but I don't find the dials non-operationals as Epervier said. Also the Sarja I has a short nosed fuselage when viewed from outside but it has a Tryl's Pe-2 cockpit which is not acceptable.

plsease see  MkI cockpit photogarph:



P.S. I found the fix by Birdman which corrects the display of Balkenkreuz useful.

[flying_dutchman]

Here is the image of a Blenheim MkIV restored at the Duxford. Probably this one is the blenheim that crashed and was destroyed beyond repair shortly after restoration. The Ranwers cockpit of MkIV is not correct.

[FANATIC MODDER]

Sorry, you don't have to be harsh if you don't know.

Please read this topic :

http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=31631&p=351787&hilit=Blenheim#p351787

you can see for some reason this topic in the SAS forum

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,14771.0.html

has been deleted.
I don't know exactly what is the problem, but obviously there is a problem with the author of the Mk I cockpit, who doesn't want to share or give his permission freely.

If was otherwise the case, be sure that DreamK would have included it, his attention to detail is excellent, you need to check elsewhere in this site to find his contributions.

Still, I hope that something can be done, we're talking here about an excellent mod....

[Ivan-le-Rouge]

Dreamk, thanks for this great addition!

[ben_wh]

2)  Once this mod is activated, the Finnish national insignia (blue swastikas on white) on the fuselage is partially obscured.  Has anyone else encountered this?  (I use Mat Manager)

Yes, I noticed it and attached a fix for it. To install go to 3do/Plane folder in this mod folder, disable the existing BlenheimMkI(Multi1) folder there for backup and replace it with my attached one. My folder has much less files since I only included those that are actually modified. In addition to the insignia problem this also fixes all LOD bugs.

To Birdman:  a belated thank you.  I noticed that you did a lot of fixing of other modders' mods and I want to say that your work is very much appreciated.

To DreamK and others:
I have (I hope) a different angle to the cockpit question here:  is it possible to add the Blenheim Sarja I (with whatever cockpit Dreamk chooses to use) without affecting the other Blenheim cockpits in the 'stock' DBW 1.71?

Thank you,

[Dreamk]

The Blenheim Sarja I java class calls for a cockpit whose java class is called Blenheim1 - therefore it does not interfere with the other Blenheim cockpits, whose class are called Blenheim1F and BlenheimIV.

[ben_wh]

The Blenheim Sarja I java class calls for a cockpit whose java class is called Blenheim1 - therefore it does not interfere with the other Blenheim cockpits, whose class are called Blenheim1F and BlenheimIV.

DreamK,

Thanks for the quick reply and your mods again.

My experience was that it did change the cockpits of the DBW 1.71 Blenheim I & IF - so, Let me test this again and get back to you.  Thanks again.

Cheers,

[Dreamk]

try deleting the file named 311C13F27D4DD844 in the files of the Blenheim Sarja I - if you already have a Blenheim 1 in your stock Il2, this is the file that changes your cockpit (it's the hashed Blenheim1.class file - it is in fact un-necessary for the Blenheim Sarja 1,  but for whose who have a simple SAS modact installation it enables to fly the regular wheeled Blenheim 1 as well).

[ben_wh]

try deleting the file named 311C13F27D4DD844 in the files of the Blenheim Sarja I - if you already have a Blenheim 1 in your stock Il2, this is the file that changes your cockpit (it's the hashed Blenheim1.class file - it is in fact un-necessary for the Blenheim Sarja 1,  but for whose who have a simple SAS modact installation it enables to fly the regular wheeled Blenheim 1 as well).

DreamK,

Thanks - tested this and got some interesting results:

I. 'Stock' DBW1.71
- Blenheim Mk.I :  'Glass house' cockpit
- Blenheim Mk.IF: 'Glass house' cockpit

II.  DBW 1.71 + Blenheim Sarja I  (w/ tyrl cockpit fix)
- Blenheim Mk.I :  Pe-2 Stand-in cockpit
- Blenheim Mk.IF: Pe-2 Stand-in cockpit
- Blenheim Sarja I: Pe-2 Stand-in cockpit

III.  DBW.171 + Blenheim Sarja I + deactivating ("-" in front) file 311C13F27D4DD844
- Blenheim Mk.I :  Pe-2 Stand-in cockpit
- Blenheim Mk.IF: 'Glass house' cockpit
- Blenheim Sarja I: Pe-2 Stand-in cockpit

Cheers,

[Birdman]

If you want to keep the original Blenheim cockpits in your DBW, you can delete or disable all classfiles not modified for this mod (check dates) and the 3do/Cockpit folder. This actually leaves only three classfiles and the contents of 3do/Plane/BlenheimMkI(Multi1) in my fix into Blenheim_Sarja_I folder.

After this all DBW Blenheims work like before and I can even fly this new Sarja I version with the DBW cockpit!
Unfortunately, there are some bugs with Sarja I:
- Cockpit view has ugly parts of external nose visible in lower nose windows because the code that hides external nose in cockpit view doesn't work.
- Top gunner position has older 3D like in this mod originally and unlike any DBW Blenheim.
- Top gunner position is named Bombardier and is linked to the health of bombardier instead of the gunner itself. This bug also appears in this mod originally but not in DBW Blenheims.

BTW, I also had parts of external nose visible in both fighter versions, but it is not because of this mod. To fix that I had to disable 6FCD5CC80BE155B0 in V2 Gear Damage mod, but that also removes gear damage mod for Blenheims.

[ben_wh]

Thank you again, Birdman, this works.  Very much appreciate your help and DreamK's mod.

By the way, I came across this from the Finnish Defense Force site - make for interesting light reading:

http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/wcm/e4f6d6004637b5f5aa6cef95d0213b00/Talvi-+ja+jatkosodan+konetyypit+ja+39-45.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

Thanks again.

Cheers,