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Joberg

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 04:10:18 PM »

Hey thats a neat mod in that video.
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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 06:04:20 PM »

Sorry guys, I see where this is going....

I am truly sorry to remind you guys that Il2 will never be able to replace sex  :P

Sex is just sex... most of the times you know how it ends... ;-)

IL2 however, you never know how it will end... it's true LOVE!

I don't know, some of the Dog Fight servers I've seen are like porno's............... seen one you've seen em all

go download mine at M4T.............. once yer up it's very intense...................bring friends.........

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2012, 09:00:56 AM »

C´mmon gents, it´s just a request for a pilot scramble mod, but I´m glad that it trigged some sexy fantasies. Besides the boose and cigarretes perhaps you all could ask the modder for some virtual condoms and the addresses, country by country, where you can use it...live!
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CWMV

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2012, 09:15:27 AM »

This is right up there with RRR for DBW in most requested and answered subjects:
Not going to happen.
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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2012, 10:20:08 AM »

I don't know if there's any incompatibility between this and other mods in DBW, as there's with RRR, but this would be great combined with other mod to turn static aircrafts on an airfield into AI active ones. This way you would have a more realistic reaction when attacking an airfield.
Kegetys' video shows that it could be done years ago. In his mod, he was even controlling the pilot. I wouldn't need that, I think this would be much more useful as AI, getting the running off animation inverted to have pilots running from hangars towards the planes.
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Ranwers

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2012, 10:23:37 AM »

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2012, 10:29:10 AM »

this is about controlling a Pilot.

you want
-ai pilot recognize your presence (possible)

-AI start engine , and also see obstacles
or
-ai taxi (4.12)

-ai take off

and...
when there are Gunshells, (7.7 to 30mm)  Bombs (50-2000lbs) and rockets (25/60/90lbs) raining on your aircraft... are you stupid enough to run towards the plane, or are you looking for a trench to take cover in?

and that is whart you call "realistic reaction"?
Play less call of Duty!

Or no.
stop playing Il-2, and play ONLY Call of duty.
Or Unreal Tournament or something...

( WTF????)
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Crazy G

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2012, 01:10:42 PM »

Try this mod https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,21041.0.html



Ranwers da man! Some years ago was MIA over Poland but returned in full. Just don´t know how to command the pilot in/out the AC. How to apply to other planes? Thanks,


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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2012, 02:22:55 PM »

Quote
Ranwers da man! Some years ago was MIA over Poland but returned in full. Just don´t know how to command the pilot in/out the AC. How to apply to other planes? Thanks,
This is not my mod - author of the mod is the Kumpel.

Ctrl+E (bail out) before plane take off.
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juanmalapuente

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2012, 05:23:25 PM »

Thank you, Ranwers. I love this great Kumpel's mod. It works great for oneself's plane, but It won't work for AI planes. I tried it even in a patrol including my own plane in FMB and nobody else climbed in their cockpits. It would be great to have AI pilots groups approaching their planes and climbing into them when starting a mission or finding enemy pilots doing so.

and...
when there are Gunshells, (7.7 to 30mm)  Bombs (50-2000lbs) and rockets (25/60/90lbs) raining on your aircraft... are you stupid enough to run towards the plane, or are you looking for a trench to take cover in?

and that is whart you call "realistic reaction"?
Play less call of Duty!

Or no.
stop playing Il-2, and play ONLY Call of duty.
Or Unreal Tournament or something...

( WTF????)

Actually, I only played Call of duty once, with my brother in law's console. I don't use to take any game as reference, I prefer to read History literature and watch History documentary movies to get info. That's why I know that only in sudden surprise attacks pilots were forced into shelters, and even in those cases, some pilots would risk their lifes to try to fly and face enemy planes.
Much more often, alarm systems or even the roaring of enemy planes engines would make pilots run to their planes and fly to face enemies before they arrived to the airfield. Quite often they rested in the shadow of their own planes wings, waiting for such alarms. Only with the increase of aircraft speed this became more and more harder, but for 30s and early 40s, that's how it worked.
I'm not planning to change IL2 for any other game or stop playing it. I like it. It's the first game I've become enthusiast since I played arcades when I was 14.
May be you should stop playing Il2 and start reading a little bit...or having a lime tea before answering posts.  ;D

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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2012, 01:28:29 AM »

Ya I'm going to call BS.
As 110G said when your getting your rear end shot off or bombed you WILL take cover.
Very rarely will people in these circumstances attempt such lunacy as taking off while under attack.
Not only does it violate common sense but it violates doctrine in many cases. The warrior is always more important than the tools he uses. Let the equipent be destroyied, it can be replaced, the man cannot.

The lunes that do such things and are successful are lauded and held as hero's, while the majority that are not are recognized to be idiots or desperate men.
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Re: Pilot scramble
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2012, 05:15:10 PM »

OK, may be I should have said when approaching to an airfield and not attacking it. But let's use a little example. I made a little "statistic" based in a single experience, Frank Tinker's experience narrated in his vivid book "Some Still Live".



For those who never heared about him, he was one of the few American pilots that served as volunteer in the Republican Air Forces in SCW. In his memories book, written a year after fighting in Spain, he describes 18 enemy attacks. Most of them were over Campo X, and airfield so close to Madrid's front that was preferent objective of Nationalist bombers.
Of those 18 attacks, 13 are day attacks and 5 night attacks. In the night attacks, they always got the syren alarm, since they heared the roaring of Ju-52 approaching the field or they were telephoned from the front were noise had been heared. The only case of pilots taking off to face enemy in a night attack along SCW of which I read is the one over Sariñena airdrome described in other thread.
In the 13 attacks with daylight they always got an alarm signal of 2 red flares, since they were telephoned from the near front when troops saw the bombers approaching the field. In all the cases, they took off to face the bombers, shooting down sometimes some Ju-52 or making He-111 turn back to their lines.
The single case of surprise attack he narrates, made many run to the shelters, but not everybody. I put it here because It's worth it to read his own words. Actually it was a really small crazy attack, but...



The fighter he was using in this attack was I-16 type 5, in the attacks over Campo X, some months before, he flew I-15.
Yes, I know there are many other cases, as I said before, with the increasing speed of bombers, reaction to attack would become harder.

May be we need a double mod: pilots running to their planes, and running to the shelters. Then you could set their braveness/crazyness in FMB, the same way you do with ace, veteran, rookie pilot experience: You could choose between completely crazy, brave, prudent and WTF you damn coward...
Just jocking.  ;D
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