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352nd_Hoss

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J2F Duck
« on: September 22, 2012, 02:08:32 PM »

I can't remember who it was that brought us the J2F Duck in the stationary Ships, and Objects expansion pack.  I have put it in a few missions in HSFX and have often wondered why some enterprising modder has not at least made this a AI plane and then flyable. 



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The JF/J2F "Duck" was one of those military workhorses moving around in the background before and during WWII which did a tremendous job but never got the publicity of its' more glamorous teammates. Some said the Duck could be more aptly named the "Ugly Duckling". Be that as it may; when no other bomber could be found, it carried bombs; when no other transport could be found, it transported; when no other photo plane could be found, it photographed and when no other rescuer could be found, it rescued. When it came to "Utility Craft", the JF/J2F was the definitive.

The Duck originated with designs and production aircraft made by Loening Aeronautical Engineering Corporation. When Loening was taken over by Curtiss-Wright in 1929, several key employees of the former Loening Aeronautical (among them; Leroy Grumman) formed the Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation which was financed by Grover Loening. In 1928, even before Curtiss-Wright took over Grover Loening Aeronautical Engineering, Loening formed the Grover Loening Aircraft Company. In 1931, Grover Loening Aircraft submitted their XO2L-1 design to the U.S. Navy for its new "Utility" category. The Navy was intrigued with the design, but as Loening had no production facilities, he was directed to Grumman. Grumman accepted the craft as "Design 7". After modifications to make it more easily produced, Grumman submitted the specifications to the Navy in 1932 and the Navy accepted it as the XJF-1.
A glance at the Loening "Air Yacht" (produced during the 1920s) reveals a somewhat more than casual resemblance to the Duck and the Navy had been aware of the craft since its inception. This and the fact Loening had a sterling reputation as a designer, made acceptance a foregone conclusion.

On Tuesday, April 25, 1933, the XJF-1 flew for the first time. Pilot Paul Hovgaard, took off from a grass strip in front of the Grumman factory at Farmingdale, NY. The Duck was classified as a "single bay" bi-winger, meaning there was only a single set of struts outboard of the fuselage and a single set of bracing wires between the upper and lower wings on each side. Power for the XJF-1 and the JF-1 came from a 14 cylinder Pratt & Whitney R-1830-62 "Twin Wasp" engine of 700 hp (522.4 kW) and a Hamilton Standard three blade prop. To keep it afloat, a single large float was mounted under the centerline of the craft. Faired flush into the sides of the main float was the main landing gear which could be raised and lowered by a system of motors, sprockets, chains and gears. A small outrigger float was mounted near the tip of each wing. The crew consisted of a pilot and rear gunner under the telescoping canopy. There were also provisions for two passengers located just aft of the lower wing in the main float.

Grumman delivered the XJF-1 to the NAS Anacostia on May 4, 1933 for testing and evaluation. The only modification recommended was a very minor change in the shape of the tail surfaces. The originals were triangular in shape and the Navy felt horizontal and vertical control could be improved by adding more area to the surfaces. Grumman changed the rudder and elevators to a more rectangular shape and redelivered the XJF-1 to the Navy in early 1934 where it was again accepted for evaluation. It was sent immediately to the Naval Test Unit at NAS Norfolk, VA. This aircraft (Serial Number 9218) crashed in the James river near Norfolk, VA on March 8, 1934 while being tested by the Navy. The cause was thought to have been pilot error.

Shortly after, the Navy ordered 27 JF-1s and the first Ducks were delivered beginning in May, 1934 to Norfolk NAS. These had provisions for mounting a machine gun at the rear seat facing aft. In addition, a single bomb rack was mounted under each wing, capable of carrying a 100 lb (45.4 kg) bomb or depth charge on each. The JF-1 had the same Pratt & Whitney R-1830-62 engine as the prototype. The main float was also a Grumman design (Grumman Model "A") and like the prototype, it included retractable main landing gear, making the Duck a true amphibian. In addition to being able to operate from land or water, the JF-1 came complete with a tail-hook for operation from a carrier deck. The JF-1 Duck was an extremely rugged aircraft (as were all Ducks). For example, on December 7, 1937 Marine Sergeant Bernard Belcher flipped his aircraft completely upside down while trying to land in a cross-wind (a particularly hazardous undertaking in a Duck). And, though the JF-1 dug its nose into the ground and somersaulted, the only damage sustained was a few wrinkles in the top of the rudder and fin. Sergeant Belcher was uninjured.

Though the JF-2 looked very similar to the JF-1, there were subtle differences, the most obvious being the installation of a loop radio direction finding antenna to the rear of the canopy. This antenna was removed whenever the Browning .30 caliber machine gun was mounted so as not to interfere with the field of fire. A somewhat less noticeable difference was the change to a Wright 1820 "Cyclone" engine which resulted in a much narrower chord for the engine cowling. Horsepower was the same as the Pratt-Whitney, and the reason for the change is somewhat obscure. In all probability the Wright engine was more readily available at the time. The Duck set a world speed record for single engine amphibians on Wednesday, December 4, 1935 when a JF-2 (Serial #0266) was flown near Quantico, VA at a speed of 191 mph (307.39 kph). A total of 14 JF-2s were built. The JF-2 Duck was built exclusively for the Coast Guard, and thus the tail hook of the JF-1 was deleted. Most of the JF-2s were later transferred to the Navy and Marines.

The JF-3 had provisions for both the direction finder loop antenna and the Browning machine gun by simply mounting the antenna under the canopy between the pilot and rear gunner/observer. As with the JF-2, the tail hook was omitted in the JF-3 Duck, as it was built for the Navy and Marine Corps Reserve units. Only 5 JF-3s were built The JF-3 Duck was the last of the JF series with production ending in October 1935.

The J2F series was first ordered in March 1936. The J2F-1 Duck first flew on Friday, April 3, 1936 and was delivered to the Navy that same afternoon. And although it was still the basic JF Duck, many improvements were incorporated into the new Grumman Design #15, starting with a new Wright 1820 Cyclone of 750 hp (559.5 kW). It was decided to make this "Utility" craft even more so. The tail hook was installed again, along with provisions for a heavier bomb load and a stretcher in the lower passenger compartment to carry wounded. It was also fitted with smoke laying and target towing gear. It could be used for a photo or reconnaissance missions as well as it’s normal function as a small transport. The main float was extended forward 12 inches. A total of 29 J2F-1s were built by April 1937 to complete the production run.

The J2F-2 again had its Wright 1820 Cyclone boosted in horsepower, this time to 790 hp (589.3 kW). A new feature for the Duck was a .30 caliber Browning firing from between the cylinders of the Cyclone. A variant (the J2F-2A) had twin .30 caliber Brownings in the rear gunners position along with an extra pair of bomb racks.

Twenty J2F-3s were built in 1939 for use by the Navy Brass. These were the "Cadillac" of Ducks with plush interiors and Navy blue with silver paint jobs. They were otherwise standard J2F-2s.

In the late summer of 1939, the J2F-4 appeared. It was basically a J2F-2 except for minor modifications. The Navy simply needed more patrol type aircraft.

July of 1941 saw the most abundant and also the last of the Grumman built Ducks, the J2F-5. Power of the Wright 1820 Cyclone had by this time been raised to 950 hp (708.7 kW). Since the oil coolers had been repositioned to the engine compartment, the Duck returned to the broad chord engine cowling of the Pratt-Whitney. Other small modifications were made to increase bomb load and to facilitate easier loading of the craft. A hundred forty-four J2F5s were built

When the last J2F-5 rolled off the assembly line, Grumman went to work on other more important aircraft which were desperately needed in the first months following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The J2F Duck project was shifted to the Columbia Aircraft Corporation who built the J2F-6 at their Valley Stream, Long Island factory from early 1942 to the end of WWII. The J2F-6 was identical to the -5 except for the Wright 1820 Cyclone which was again reworked to deliver 1,050 hp (783.3 kW), the most powerful Duck built and the most numerous, with 330 being built for the Navy and Coast Guard.

The AO-12 was an Air Force Duck used as an Air/Sea Rescue craft. All were drawn from surplus Navy, Marine and Coast Guard J2F-5s and -6s, rebuilt and modified for Air Force operations. The basic Duck airframe remained exactly the same.

A number of Ducks were produced for South American countries. They bore the model numbers of G-15 through G-20. All were identical to JF/J2F models.

A total of 632 JF/J2F Ducks were built in all. By 1945 they were scattered all over the world, performing duties nothing short of amazing. Ducks could be seen airborne as late as the mid 1950s. There may be one or two still flying today. Probably the most famous Duck of all was J2F-6 Serial Number 33587 which starred in the movie "Murphy’s War" in the mid 1970s.


The SBD cockpit could be used, or the Buffalo like is being done with the TBD-1. 



Specifications:
Grumman J2F-6 Duck
Dimensions:
Wing span: Wing Span: 39 ft 0 in (11.9 m)
Length: Length: 34 ft 0 in (10.4 m)
Height: Height: 14 ft 6 in (4.4 m)
Wing Area: 409 sq ft (38 sq m)
Weights:
Empty: 5,480 lbs (2,485 kg)
Maximum T/O: 7,325 lbs (3,322 kg)
Performance:
Maximum Speed: 190 mph (305 kph)
Cruising Speed: 155 mph (249 km/hr)
Service Ceiling: 25,750 ft (7,848 m)
Normal Range: 875 miles (2,408 km)
Powerplant:
One Wright 1820-54 Cyclone rated @ 1,050 hp (783.3 kw)
Armament:
One .30 caliber Browning Machine Gun
650 lbs (294.8 kg) bombs/depth charges

I have seen where some modders are looking into gettin the cattapults on the CL's and now the Iowa to launch these planes.  Would be nice to use these, the C&C n arty and fly over land or a Jap convoy, padlock your target and watch the big guns blow them to hell.

Sorry if this thread does not exactly follow the request format, but sometimes I have a hard time following what someone else writes, or draws out.

Cheers.

Hoss

I got a lot of the information from Duggy's thread over on A&A...

http://www.axis-and-allies-paintworks.com/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?1995

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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2012, 03:41:10 PM »

I believe it was being worked on by a modder some time ago by something happened to the modder
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2012, 04:06:12 PM »

The author, AnomalousMaterials, was killed in an accident in early 2009 - his real name was Matteo Gandini. His model still exists and is being passed between modders, in the hope that some one will take the job and finish it, not only for the modding community but also as a last salute to his author.....but its seems that the emotionnal load associated to this tragic event is still a psychological barreer for all of us.
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2012, 04:13:47 PM »

I was not aware the originator had passed away, it's always a shame to lose someone who shares our love of this game, and for his families loss as well.  I know the hole that leaves in the heart and sole, it's never easy. 

It would be good to finish it and dedicate it to his memory, someone could do some kind of legacy tribute with it too. 

Cheers

Hoss

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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2012, 06:09:04 PM »

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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 01:27:43 AM »

Sad news about Matteo. Hope someone can finish his job.
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 02:28:39 AM »

ATTENTION !

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,20511.msg221948.html#msg221948
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,20511.msg221447.html#msg221447

It seems there is confusion about the author's original J2F!
I apologize to the various parties involved!
This mod is dedicated to the memory of Luca Zani !



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I can't remember who it was that brought us the J2F Duck in the stationary Ships, and Objects expansion pack.
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Credits v1 :
- Anomalous_Materials (Luca Zani & Matteo Gandini)
- Export into play - Magot
- Classes - SAS~Epervier
- Skin damage - archie1971
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 04:00:50 AM »

It seems there is confusion about the author's original J2F!
I apologize to the various parties involved!
This mod is dedicated to the memory of Luca Zani !

This Guy was called Anomalous Materials, and his name was Matteo Gandini. I was in direct contact with him.
If had any next name as Luca IDK ...
In original max or PSD file it´s not direct subscribe name. Only that files was saved in Italian language in y 2005. That all.
Matteo had any next planes for IL2 as Stearman but never released it before his dead.
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 04:35:03 AM »

The author, AnomalousMaterials, was killed in an accident in early 2009 - his real name was Matteo Gandini.

Yes his nick-name was AnomalousMaterials, here is the WIP thread he started back in 2009 still there at AAS, http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=11481&hilit=Duck

He was from Italy I looked at his profile in the admins part of my site and his e-mail was live.it

I dont know how he could had been killed in early 2009 when he was last on my site in Feb 1, 2010.

That is the info I have on this.
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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 05:15:40 AM »

I have now read through the whole thread and have come to conclusion that it was his girl friend logging on under his name checking PMs and so on, so that is how I think the last active time for him was set.

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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 07:02:25 AM »

Very sad about Matteo Gandini. I didn't know.

The J2F would be a grand additoin - hopefully someone will pick it up. It would be a fitting legacy for
M. Gandini.

Wildchild , thanks for the clip ; I had heard of "Murphy's War" before, but now I want to watch it.

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Re: J2F Duck
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 07:17:54 AM »



Yes thanks for the link, what a wonderful movie.
Regards Duggy
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