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airkidgeek

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Midway class carrier
« on: October 09, 2012, 02:15:17 PM »

As I was talking to my uncle about his time in the Navy and serving in carrierbattlegroups off Vietnam, I wondered, why dont we have a Midway class in the sim? Besides we are progressing to the Vietnam era, and trying to catapult an F-4 off an Essex class always ends up in the drink for me. Also realistically those Phantoms were too heavy for those ships

USS Midway CV-41



USS  Franklin D. Roosevelt CV-42



USS Coral Sea CV-43



Specs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midway_class_aircraft_carrier
These are based off the Coral Sea when she was retired


    Displacement: 65,200 tons full load
    Length: 1003 feet (305.7 meters)
    Beam: 236 feet (72 meters) at flight deck
    Draft: 35 feet (10.7 meters)
    Armament: 2 Phalanx CIWS
    Speed: 33 knots (61 km/h)
    Power: 212,000 hp (158 MW)
    Drive: 4 screws; geared turbines
    Aircraft: 65

Also please forgive my use of Wikipedia one of the worlds most mistrusted sources
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 12:07:24 PM »

Need more more time for me.

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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 12:47:20 PM »

Western – you beauty! Can always rely on you. Wish you all the best with this project.  8)
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 01:43:37 PM »

Helloooo! Well, well, lookie here. You're takin' on quite a load, Western.
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 06:40:34 PM »

I'm a big fan of flat tops and I'm glad there will be a ship which the good ol' phantoms can feel right at home on.  Western, the words "thank you" cannot begin to cover the amazing things you and all of the other modders have and are doing for this game.  Your works are greatly appreciated.
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 12:03:01 AM »

Very nice suprise. Looking forward to more updates. :)
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 06:49:13 AM »

When you need to download, or to look for new Ship Mods take a look into this forum section...
-------> https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,119.0.html
Special Aircraft Service > Individual Mod Downloads  > ModWorx > Ships&Vehicles

That section is for Ships, Aircraft-carriers, Boats, Tanks, Vehicles, Objects, Animals, Soldiers, Trains and any other
mods other than maps and airplanes. Those are in their own special section of this forum.

This is what you might be looking for ... by Western0221 (a great mod-artist  8) )
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24177.0.html

USS Essex class aircraft carrier after SCB-125 modernization with angled deck.

Ships list
- USS Essex CV9 /1957
- USS Essex CV9 /1965
- USS Yorktown CV10 /1956
- USS Intrepid CV11 /1957
- USS Intrepid CV11 /1970
- USS Hornet CV12 /1957
- USS Hornet CV12 /1970
- USS Ticonderoga CV14 /1962
- USS Randolph CV15 /1957
- USS Randolph CV15 /1962
- USS Lexington CV16 /1958
- USS Hancock CV19 /1957
- USS Hancock CV19 /1968
- USS Kearsarge CV33 /1965
- USS Oriskany CV34 /1965
- USS Oriskany CV34 /1970
- USS Shangri La CV38 /1955
- USS Shangri La CV38 /1970




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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 02:12:19 PM »

I got them hitman and I love them! especially the Yorktown, I pretty much spend all my time in IL-2 launching and landing on them! ;D 
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 06:01:05 PM »


Western0221 carrier-Mods are superb in every way to me, I love them too,
unfortunately I suck at carrier landings . 
I keep smashing into the control tower  :(  Why is that thing on deck anyway?
It just takes up all my good landing space. LOL  ;D

For those that have not tried these wonderful aircraft-carriers for your game, it´s about time you guys
installed them into your good game. Loads of fun!
I highly reccomend them *2 thumbs up* THANKS Western!

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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 10:39:48 PM »

Need more more time for me.

http://kura2.photozou.jp/pub/290/2437290/photo/156180002.jpg

Nice! :)
 and I owe you one western for those Essex class ;)
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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2012, 07:36:53 PM »

The Midway is probably the most modified ship in the US Navy's history, having served in three completely different configurations from 45 to the mid 90s, from F8Fs, F4Us, to FA-18s. She launched everything, including P-2 Neptunes, and even a V-2. Note that she served thru Korea with the straight deck, then had the angled deck added in the mid 50s, then finally got the mutated looking oversized deck by 1980.


The version that appears to be modeled, and that appears in the shots above, is the 1980s deck configuration, with an overhanging deck that came closer to the big super-carriers, but made the ship topheavy and created handling problems.


The Navy added "bilges" (I think that's what they called them) in the early 80s, but that just made the ship roll worse, so they were removed.


The oversized flight deck was added to get as close to a modern carrier as possible, and deck space was at a premium. She usually operated with F-4s, A-6s, and A-7s in the 80s. Their was discussion about using F-14s, but it was determined to be too hairy. Note the deck shape compared to Kitty Hawk on left, and Nimitz (I believe) on the right. The Navy was desperate for more flight deck space to counter the HUGE Soviet Navy and increasing deployment needs. Note the AC selection also.


Even in this slightly angled shot (bearing to the left), the huge deck is obviously on a hull never designed for this. Note the FA-18s on it, and the A-6 tails on the left. She was the Dolly Parton of carriers.


She handled F-4B/J/N and S quite well, and there was much more space that improved AC deck handling.


The parking area is larger than the Coral Sea and Roosevelt with increased safety.




This was as she appeared in the Gulf War in 91, FA-18As, EA-6Bs, A-6s, and E-2s/S-3s operated off this deck.


The only disadvantage to this deck config is the limited plane selection we currently have, though that is getting better. F-4s and FA-18s were the fighters that operated off this deck, and I wouldn't expect and A-6, but the A-7E has more chance of showing up someday. It will give the Navy F-4 versions we have now will have a realistic platform to fly off of.
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THE Midway's PREVIOUS angled deck config is the last one used by the Coral Sea and Roosevelt above. This deck would have more historical time period potential, from the mid 50s thru the 60s and 70s and its use on all three ships in the turbulant period of mid 50s thru the 70s would give FMB guys like myself room to go ape. We already have F-8s and F-4s that operated off this deck, and would justify an A-4 and A-7 project.

   Off Vietnam, mid 60s; Note the 5" 38 mounts that still equip the ship, as these were removed soon after this. Also note the A-1s, A-4Es, F-8s, F-4s, with a surprisingly high number of larger planes; KA-3/EA-3, and E-1 AEW planes with that odd dome. Mysteriously, the Navy had no problem back then operating such a versatile mix of planes, compared to now.


This very nice model shows it a bit clearer, with the same aircraft complement. I think she carried 45 to 60 planes in this period, depending on type.


This shot is clearer with a more open deck. She looks like an enlarged Essex, but with alot more deck space. Note the near total lack of armament in the 60s.


This shot is in the early 60s. Note the twin 3 in 50 mount.


The twin auto 3" 50 had a tremendous rate of fire, and replaced the plethora of quad 40mm by the mid 50s. As time went by, they were gradually removed until only a couple of mounts remained; a somewhat unrealistically optimistic view of Soviet capabilities.


 This config accommodates many unusual historical scenarios, such as the Mig-17 kill made by two A-1s off Midway. this was one of two mig kills by USN Skyraiders over Vietnam.


This includes the most unusual bomb ever dropped by the USN; a toilet from the Midway, sneaked onto an A-1 to commemorate a particular amount of ordinance dropped by the Midway to that time. They manuvered the A-1 out to keep the "ordinance" out of sight of the bridge and deck boss.
Model kits and custom decals have depicted this scene. Modelers and FMB guys could conspire to re-enact such, creating an entire new type of competition; john bombing.  ::)







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Re: Midway class carrier
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2012, 08:45:31 PM »

Gonzo Station, been there a few times on the USS Constellation back in 80-81, 82...... just outside the straights of Hormuz..... started when the Iranians took the US Embassy personnel hostage... I was transiting the Malacca Straights (Singapore)when they attempted it, we did a high speed run from the P.I. to Gonzo at a constant 25+ knots.... the Connie vibrated like a lawn mower at that speed.... warped shafts....

We did 110 days straight without a port call on that Gonzo run........ we stopped in Singapore for 7 days on the way back...... they were very happy to see us leave.... 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzo_Station

Nice Story from a Midway Sailor...

http://www.vicsocotra.com/wordpress/2012/08/seventy-days-on-gonzo-station/

That Skyraider has a Mk I Shitter loaded on it's starboard pylon...... in fact is came out of VA-25's head... it's got their "Fist of the Fleet" squadron sticker on it......  And I do believe Crazyflak is modeling that for his much anticipated Skyraider update.
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