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asheshouse

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Re: Word's first US jet project
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2012, 07:12:56 AM »

From the EU Times  :D

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Since Romanians invented the jet plane and they were also important allies of Germany, they have received plans on how to develop the Messerschmitt Me 262.
In the following pictures you will see the Romanian version of Messerschmitt Me 262 produced in the I.A.R. factory from Brasov

This reads like an alternative history dialogue.
In reality Rumania changed sides to the Allies in August 1944, before the major roll out of the Me 262 to operational squadrons. There is no evidence of I.A.R. ever building Me 262's or of them ever being issued to Rumanian squadrons.
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Re: Word's first US jet project
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2012, 07:20:59 AM »

Is the European Union Times a reliable source?

No, for me this article is pure fantasy... And with pictures taken directly from Luft46 site. http://www.luft46.com/roart/ro1070.html
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Re: Word's first US jet project
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2012, 09:30:35 AM »

The article in the eutimes is waffle :) Also Coanda is completely surrounded in a shroud of controversy, speculation and fantasy. Not detracting from his pioneering work at all though.
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Re: World's first US jet project
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2012, 01:06:27 PM »


A few months back I posted this YouTube documentary in which it also featured the L-133.
Please take a look at it again. Very cool film

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Re: World's first US jet project
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2012, 04:13:25 AM »

Amazing video max!
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Re: Word's first supersonic jet project
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2013, 01:46:37 PM »

This is my opinion:
Romania was an ally of Germany. With the experience gained from the Coanda-1910 project, he designed the plane we now know as "Messerschmit P.1070" and sent the blueprints to Messerschmit.

That's a plausible explanation, I can't be impartial on this subject so I believe that too.
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Re: Word's first US jet project
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2013, 04:16:24 PM »

I read an article couple of mounths ago whcih said that romania had a jet plane factory which produced a me p.1070 and send it to the luftwaffe which developed it further.
The factory was moved by the russians in '44 or '45 in Kiev or Siberia and the ramains of the factory were transformed in a tractor factory. i'm not sure of this because I don't have the article link anymore.

Anyways I found a different article: http://www.eutimes.net/2007/08/romanian-jet-airplanes-from-ww2/

Hope that I helped.

first sentence in this article ..
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Germans were the first who put Henri Coanda’s jet airplane into production and they called it Messerschmitt Me 262.
this is complete nonsense.

(the same with P.1070)

or this:
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in the following pictures you will see the Romanian version of Messerschmitt Me 262 produced in the I.A.R. factory from Brasov

here is the official history of JAR Brasov:
http://www.iar.ro/profile.html
no word about the 262 ...

so forget such articles and stick with serious sources.  ;)
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Re: World's first US jet project
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2013, 10:19:45 PM »

Henri Coanda's engine was a motorjet. As such, it has very little in common with mainstream turbojet technology we know today. So yes, it is absolutely accurate to say Coanda did not invent the "true" jet engine.

An example of a motorjet driven plane was the Italian Caproni-Campini, or Soviet I-250 - only prototypes, a developmental dead-end, no series production planes with motorjet technology were ever built.

Nevertheless, Coanda's 1910 prototype was truly ahead of times.
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