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[Fresco23]

First off thanks to all the modders for their exceptional work! And merry Christmas to everyone!

Something i'd really love to see is Germany's first operational military aircraft:

Rumpler Taube

As Imperial Germany's first practical military aircraft, the Taube ("dove") was used for virtually all
military aircraft applications, as a fighter, bomber, surveillance aircraft and trainer from 1910 until
the start of World War I in August 1914. The Taube was very popular prior to the First World War,
and it was also used by the air forces of Italy and Austria-Hungary. Even the Royal Flying Corps
operated at least one Taube in 1912. On November 1, 1911, Giulio Gavotti, an Italian aviator, had
dropped the world's first aerial bomb from his Taube monoplane over the Ain Zara oasis in Libya.[1]
Once the war began, it quickly proved inferior as a serious warplane and as a result was soon replaced
by newer and more effective designs.

The Taube was designed in 1909 by Igo Etrich of Austria-Hungary, with its first flight in 1910.
It was licensed for serial production by Lohner-Werke in Austria and by Edmund Rumpler in Germany,
now called the Etrich-Rumpler-Taube.[2][3] Rumpler soon changed the name to Rumpler-Taube,
and stopped paying royalties to Etrich, who subsequently abandoned his patent.

Etrich adopted the format of crosswind-capable main landing gear that Louis Blériot had used on his
Blériot XI cross-channel monoplane for better ground handling, and gained biplane-like strength for
the Taube's monoplane wing with a cable cross-braced, orthogonal-layout Brücke, or "bridge", beneath
each wing panel, which often carried small wire-spoke wheels or skids at its outboard ends, for wingtip
protection. Later Taube-type aircraft from other manufacturers would eventually replace the Blériot-style
crosswind main gear with a simpler V-strut main gear format, and also omitted the underwing "bridge"
structure for somewhat better aerodynamic efficiency.
 
Like many contemporary aircraft, especially monoplanes, the Taube used wing warping rather than ailerons
for lateral (roll) control, and also warped the rear half of the stabilizer for use as an elevator control
surface's function. Only the vertical, twinned triangular rudder surfaces were usually hinged.

General characteristics
 Crew: 2
 Length: 9.9 m (32 ft 6 in)
 Wingspan: 14.3 m (46 ft 11 in)
 Height: 3.2 m (10 ft 6 in)
 Wing area: 32.5 m2 (350 sq ft)
 Empty weight: 650 kg (1,433 lb)
 Gross weight: 850 kg (1,874 lb)
 Powerplant: 1 × Mercedes Typ E4F[9] 4-cyl. water-cooled piston engine, 64 kW (86 hp)
 
Performance
 Maximum speed: 100 km/h (62 mph; 54 kn)
 Range: 140 km (87 mi; 76 nmi)
 Service ceiling: 2,000 m (6,562 ft)
 
Armament

 Guns: Rifles and pistols
 Bombs: Hand dropped bombs





i REALLY like the way this model looks!








I'ld really love to see a pistol or rifle as a loadout option for the second/observer seat! 

The design provided for very stable flight, which made it extremely suitable for observation. In addition, the
translucent wings made it difficult for ground observers to detect a Taube at an altitude above 400 meters.
The first hostile engagement was by an Italian Taube in 1911 in Libya, its pilot using pistols and dropping 2 kg
(4.4 lb) bombs. The plane was also used for bombing in the Balkans in 1912–13, and in late 1914 when German 3 kg
(6.6 lb) bomblets and propaganda leaflets were dropped over Paris. Taube spotter planes detected the advancing
Imperial Russian Army in East Prussia during the World War I Battle of Tannenberg.

Due to the lack of license fees, no less than 14 companies built a large number of variations of the initial design,
making it difficult for historians to determine the exact manufacturer based on historical photographs.
An incomplete list is shown below. The most common version was the Rumpler Taube with two seats.

Albatros Taube Produced by the Albatros Flugzeugwerke

Albatros Doppeltaube Biplane version produced by the Albatros Flugzeugwerke.

Aviatik Taube Produced by the Automobil und Aviatik AG firm.

DFW Stahltaube (Stahltaube) Version with a steel frame.

Etrich Taube Produced by the inventor Igo Etrich.

Etrich-Rumpler-Taube Initial name of the "Rumpler Taube".

Gotha Taube Produced by the Gothaer Waggonfabrik as the LE.1, LE.2 and LE.3 (Land Eindecker - "Land Monoplane") and designated A.I by the Idflieg Harlan

Pfeil Taube Halberstadt Taube III Produced by the Halberstädter Flugzeugwerke.

Jeannin Taube (Jeannin Stahltaube) Version with a steel tubing fuselage structure.

Kondor Taube Produced by the Kondor.

RFG Taube Produced by the Reise- und Industrieflug GmbH (RFG).

Roland Taube Rumpler-Taube Produced by Edmund Rumpler, Luftfahrzeugbau.

Rumpler Delfin-Taube (Rumpler Kabinentaube "Delfin") Version with a closed cabin, produced by Edmund Rumpler, Luftfahrzeugbau.

Isobe Rumpler Taube[6] A Taube built in Japan by Onokichi Isobe


If someone is interested enough to pick this project up, then i offer you many thanks!
regards

fresco

[saab ja26]

+ 1 for this. Would be great to see in DBW 1916.

[RealDarko]

Maybe we should add a sniper rifle to the gunner so at least we can wound the enemy pilots and force them down, or even hit the engine.
Cool plane.

[Fresco23]

In real life i couldnt imagine the dificulty one would have trying to shoot a man in one moving aircraft from another moving aircraft while buffeted by prop wash and trying to shoot while peering through a rifle scope. I fear it would be next to impossible! Im not sure of the year it went into production, but i found an artist rendition of a taube engaging a british or french scout over the line. Instead of a rifle or some sort of normal hand gun, the pilot(there was no observer in the pic) was firing a mauser c96, which would give him a few more shots than a revolver and (acording to wiki) this was the most powerful(highest velocity) handgun cartridge until the creation of the .357.

edit: production of this pistol went from around 1895-6 through 1937

[kaxII]

The c96 could also have a stock, 20 round mag and fire fully automatic in some versions, and was used in WWII and is available in rise of flight.

[Fresco23]

according to one source i ve read in the past(and im not going to look it up right now but it just came to mind so im not certain of the acuracy of this claim) the automatic c96s averaged an approkimate fire rate of about 15 rds per sec... which is a lot! It would NEED a stock to approach anything resembling accuracy with a fire rate like that in a gun that small! 

[razor1uk]

Liking the wing warpage - I believe they try to call it modern warperages 'MAW's once - Mission Adaptive Wing using flexible composite mat'l - must be what the F22's aerilons use...
C96 'Broom Handle', mmm, ..Han Solo's gun plus a Dove... prospective IL2 'what if' heaven - just no lightsabres please - or I might have to revert to Battlefield2 for my kicks...

Just got a GT610 2Gb GDDR3 GFX Card for £45! for my homebound rig, just in the process of optimiseing the GFX settings for IL2 via card control and conf.ini - almost 'perfect' qualities, without is offering the ingame 'Perfect' choice option.

[max_thehitman]

It is one of WW1 most beutifully designed airplanes, but totally unpractical for combat.
I will pass on this one and say, its not needed in IL2-1916. Sorry mates, but that is what I say.
There are many other airplanes that are more needed right now and will really make dogfighting a thrilling experience foru us in the IL2 skies.

The Taube was one of the first airplanes to fly in WW1 and it was used mainly for recon work.
Dogfighting in it was a joke. Honestly. There was no way to shoot a machine-gun through a prop
 until the Fokker E-III came along. Pilots fought against each other in the air by shooting hand-guns or throwing rocks and bricks at each other. I joke you not, it was true. They threw bricks and rocks at the other airplanes. How are modders going to work out this problem? By modding/modeling a pilot throwing a rock at another airplane or modeling a pilot shooting at another airplane with a shotgun?

The Taube was also by far much more slower than the Fokker E-III, which makes for a very slower game experience. I like WW1 airplanes very much but even the Fokker E-III makes me sleepy when I
fly it. Its a slow airplane to fly.
It is just so slow and comfortable that I almost fall asleep just looking at the beautiful landscapes.
I find no use for the Taube in WW1, unless it is for Recon work or for just flying around looking at the
scenary on a sunday afternoon.

[razor1uk]

I get wgat you mean, before my HDD crash, the world of ww1 was rarely flown by me, but I did fly none the less, but by the gods, it did take ages to get anywhere then, let alone in this pre-eminant but carraige slow kite.. these ww1 planes, after just getting used to ww2 let alone 56 or 66 planes, the engines blow even before you think your going fast - by Saturnus's tail-bone, even the choppers are faster...

[Fresco23]

...or for just flying around looking at the scenary on a sunday afternoon.

...i took the E-III up for a spin just this morning specifically because it was slow and easy to fly so i could chill and watch the scenery...

I wouldn't expect it (the Taube) to be a dogfighter at all. I think it would be far more likely to be seen in the background of a mission or just a stationary version sitting at your home aerodrome.

[HotelAlpha]

Bombs: Hand dropped bombs

I loved the WWI tech, a friend told me that one time squadrons threw bricks out to bonk guys in the head

[LuseKofte]

In the start they did not shoot at each other, the first one trying to stop a enemy observer plane was a french pilot having a anchor hanging behind in a rope , trying to tear the enemy plane wings off.
Then there where rifles and the development of fighters for taking away the damn observer planes.
I think the term general purpose planes was born in this era