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[Phoenix9491]

We have the Iowa class, so why not the Montana Class? a bigger and badder version of the Iowas:
General characteristics
Displacement: 65,000 long tons (66,040 t) (standard);[1]
70,965 long tons (72,104 t) (full load)[2][3][4]
Length: 920 ft 6 in (280.57 m)[2]
Beam: 121 ft 0 in (36.88 m)[2]
Draft: 36 ft 1 in (11.00 m)[2]
Propulsion: 8 × Babcock & Wilcox 2-drum express type boilers powering 4 sets of Westinghouse geared steam turbines 4 × 43,000 hp (32 MW)[2] – 172,000 shp (128 MW) total power
Speed: 28 kn (32 mph; 52 km/h) maximum[2][5]
Range: 15,000 nmi (17,000 mi; 28,000 km) at 15 kn (17 mph; 28 km/h)[1]
Complement: Standard: 2,355[2]
Flagship: 2,789[2]
Armament: 12 × 16-inch (406 mm)/50 cal Mark 7 guns[2]
20 × 5-inch (127 mm)/54 cal Mark 16 guns[2]
10–40 × Bofors 40 mm anti-aircraft gun[2]
56 × Oerlikon 20 mm anti-aircraft cannons[2]
Armor: Side belt: 16.1 inches (409 mm) tapering to 10.2 inches (259 mm) on 1-inch (25 mm) STS plate inclined 19°
Lower side belt: 7.2 inches (183 mm) tapered to 1 inch (25 mm) inclined 10°[1]
Bulkheads: 18 inches (457 mm) forward, 15.25 inches (387 mm) aft[1]
Barbettes: 21.3 inches (541 mm), 18 inches (457 mm) (aft)[1]
Turrets: up to 22.5 inches (572 mm)
Decks: up to 6 inches (152 mm)
Aircraft carried: 3–4 × Vought OS2U Kingfisher/Curtiss SC Seahawk floatplanes
Aviation facilities: 2 × aft catapults for launch of seaplanes

[asheshouse]

We have the Iowa class, so why not the Montana Class?

My reason why not would be because they were never built (only preliminary design studies) and there are many more interesting BB's which are still missing which were built. North Carolina and South Dakota Classes for example. My priority for "what if" types would be those which were at least started but not completed. Still..... ultimately its the choice of the modeller.

[Phoenix9491]

True, and the South Dakota and North Carolina classes are (I think) the most numerous that remain today as museum ships (I've been on most of them) but I felt that the Montanas would make a good what if for invasion of Japan....especially since they were cancelled in '43, so if they had been worked on a little earlier, I think its a real possibility that they could have been built and fought in the war

[asheshouse]

Carriers were pretty soon considered more important than battleships.
After Pearl Harbour the major shipyards were churning out Essex Class Carriers and after those came the larger Midway Class CV's. They started building in 1943, coincident with the cancelling of the Montana Class BB's. 6 Midway Class were planned but only 3 completed (none in time for WWII), the other 3 being cancelled at the wars end.

The Royal Navy at the same time had plans for 6 Lion Class BB's. Only 2 were started and neither were completed. They started construction before the war but work was suspended to release men and materials to build other ship types.

[VF111Sundowner]

I think the Montana Class would made a good 46 ship,

They were scrapped as an idea, in favor of smaller fast attack carriers.
But what if the war progressed, would they have resurfaced for the invasion of Japan, or what if Hitler's Bismark hadn't been sunk? Or what if they finished their carrier projects?

Bring on the Montana and her 12 16 inch guns!

By the way She is a playable ship in the game Battlestations Pacific for PC and Console.

[Phoenix9491]

I have battlestations Pacific....I dont remember the Montana being in it? though I havent played in a while may be an excuse to pull it out again

And I agree, a very good 46 ship.....i would suggest some of the German battleship designs, but those things were just plain crazy even for them (ships 300 feet wide and 1500 feet long, 800mm main guns)

[Blazing]

I believe the Montana was a in dlc add-on, not sure my self but i read somewhere


** yea it's part of the Mustang Pack ***

[Phoenix9491]

Where is that?

[Fresco23]

Montana... interesting design!

But I would rather see an actual ship like the USS Alabama. A South Dakota class, she played a large part in the Pacific, shelling Japanese positions for various landings alongside her sister ship South Dakota, and later, along side of the USS Iowa, she was instrumental in defense of the Essex during the largest battle of the Pacific theatre. Prior to the same battle, received the distinction of becoming the first surface vessel to confirm a radar sighting of incoming enemy attack, allowing the Essex, and her escort carriers to launch fighters in time to form a defence. Alabama so fiercely defended Essex that her gunners didn't see a lone Japanese dive bomber coming in to hit the Alabama until it was too late. Thankfully, he missed. Never once hit by enemy fire, Alabama became known as "Lucky A".

I'm certain other Vessels have such interesting stories, and I guess I'd just like to see actual ships rather than a ship that never got built.

My two cents worth.
Fresco

[Phoenix9491]

I've been on the Alabama and I believe it deserves a place as well....I believe there is some one working on South Dakota class currently. However the Montana class I believe may have been a reality, I am also suggesting it for what if scenarios which can be just as interesting as the actual battles

[Fresco23]

I agree that what if battles and mods are still just as fun.    I am a fan of all aspects of Il-2, after all, the very title of our game is a what if... 1946. I have the utmost respect for the work modders put in. So, while i maintain my preferance for getting "Lucky A", I will not complain if someone starts a Montana project. 

[Phoenix9491]

It would be nice if it had come stock with a bit more '46 stuff though