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Author Topic: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M?br20MLate Ready to DL Update3/7/13  (Read 74655 times)

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Batbomb

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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2013, 08:51:17 AM »

Good Work!
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2013, 09:21:52 AM »

New link for skins and template. The template is in the first folder by the way. A psd file ... this should fix the small little blemishes that were previously on the skins. By eliminating the masks, the skins themselves look rather messy, but they work on planes in-game as they should ..

If anyone wants to make their own skins with the template, they can always turn the masks back on ...

This link is on mediafire instead of sendspace since some members get (false) virus alerts ... I don't have a pro account though, so I can't guarantee mediafire won't cut off free links after a number of downloads.

https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?o1tzq6fw8tnythb
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2013, 10:12:48 AM »

Thanks, a very nice looking plane :)
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2013, 10:18:20 AM »

Sorry my english ,I want to add this beautiful bomber for DCG(Lowengrin)mediterranean campaigns.Anyone can help me?Thanks
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #64 on: May 18, 2013, 03:16:44 PM »

Thanks DreamK, Epervier and Agracier!

More skin work to do with the SCW ones...

For what I've read there were about 13 to 19 Br-20s in the fascist side with numeration code "23", although some say that there were up to 27 of them...

so much skin work and so few time to do them...
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2013, 01:12:33 AM »

DreamK, Epervier  Agracier and Tofolo = Genius  :D

Superb work and fine tuning

Many thanks from all SCW fliers !

Cheers

Alfie
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #66 on: May 19, 2013, 01:39:54 AM »

New link for skins and template. The template is in the first folder by the way. A psd file ... this should fix the small little blemishes that were previously on the skins. By eliminating the masks, the skins themselves look rather messy, but they work on planes in-game as they should ..

THX amigo, this fixes the small orange blemishes ...  ;)















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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #67 on: May 19, 2013, 02:33:15 AM »

After a brief test I can say that this is a really beautiful plane!

Flight model is quite forgiving and safe to fly even by keyboard (I don't plug all the hotas crates for simple test) , the bomb load is reproduced in a really historical way!

Only little difference that I noticed is that flaps retraction act from every extended position directly to the fully retracted without any intermediate step....

Apart this dot the big picture is simply AMAZING!!!!

PS: The plane send to Spain was 13 , 4 lost to various cause but none for enemy action , 9 handed to spanish after war end , code number have first two digits 23 for plane type and last two digit starting from 21 for individual numbers....my source report that first batch of 6 ranged from 21 to 26 , last batch of 7 have unknown number designation but at last should range to 29....don't know how can have evolved numeration after....
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #68 on: May 19, 2013, 02:36:20 AM »

 :)      :)       :D        :D   


Great job, really great job for this coveted Italian bomber, used on all fronts ... with these adjustments is reaching perfection and thanks to the great Dreamk for what he gave us!

PS.  A small error in the Italian skins .... The "fasci littori" must be opposed with respect to the axes ... if you allow me I can flip it ..

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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #69 on: May 19, 2013, 03:16:57 AM »

PS: The plane send to Spain was 13 , 4 lost to various cause but none for enemy action , 9 handed to spanish after war end , code number have first two digits 23 for plane type and last two digit starting from 21 for individual numbers....my source report that first batch of 6 ranged from 21 to 26 , last batch of 7 have unknown number designation but at last should range to 29....don't know how can have evolved numeration after....

Depending on the sources.

The weirdest thing is that there's only trustful information from the first batch (21 to 23 first and then 24 to 26) and the second one (1 to 7, with only a single 12,7 mm dorsal MG), but if that is so...how could we explain that:




some say that the numeration 1 to 7 might be wrong and the real numerals were 11 to 17 (but #17 was Italy's bad luck number, so perhaps it was never painted...) and others say that the real batch was the whole 1 to 26...

ah, another mistery which might be never unveiled...

BTW, those skins look lovely!
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Re: FiatBr20 Early/ Br20 Series production/Br20M Ready to DL
« Reply #70 on: May 19, 2013, 03:33:48 AM »

BTW, and against all what is written.....I've found a photo where appears, as a "side guest" (not teh main object of the photo) a Br20M in Spanish Nationalist colors - apparently at least one of these machine was hastly sent for operational trials in Spain in 1939 - same thing apparently as the Caproni 310.
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Update 19/5/13
This update adds:
1)the Br20M Late with a profiled, non retractable, Lanciani turret and profiled gonio antenna.
2) It also correctly enables the CAP meshes (Thanks Epervier!)
3) and the position of the loop antenna on the Early Br20.
The uwmap additions for the lanciani turret is included in this archive.
Notes:
a)In the documentation on the Br20M I gathered, the dorsal turret gun is always described as a BredaSafat12.7 but the manual of the Lanciani turret type Delta E mentions that it could be equipped with 3 types of guns: Breda Safta 7,7, Scottiu 7,7 and Scotti 12,7. can someone confirm which kind of gun was mounted in the Lancian turret of the Br20M? (presently I let it as a Breda-Safat 12.7mm)?

b) The Equilibrator of the Lanciani turret moved as a mirror to this turret's gun - I tried a number of patterns but had not succeeded to realize this animation, so the equilibrator remains static - can someone help to animate it in fuction of the movements of the gun?

download link of the update:
https://www.mediafire.com/?3fc4mkknu43taz8

Here are the required additions to  air.ini, plane_ru, weapons_ru additions:
 
air.ini:

FiatBr20ML            air.FiatBr20ML 1                       NOINFO    f01   SUMMER

plane_ru.properties:

FiatBr20ML      FiatBr20M Late production, 1941

Weapons_ru.properties

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FiatBr20ML
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FiatBr20ML.default            Default (2xBredaSafat 7.7 1xBredaSafat 12.7)
FiatBr20ML.2x800T            2x 800kg T
FiatBr20ML.2x500T            2x 500kg T
FiatBr20ML.4x250T            4x 250kg T
FiatBr20ML.4x160AS            4x 160kg AS
FiatBr20ML.12x100T            12x100kg T (Early, Late, Amatol)
FiatBr20ML.1x800+6x100M         1x 800kg T + 6x 100kg M (Early, Late, Amatol)
FiatBr20ML.2x250T+2x100SpE+2x100SpI+2x104M   2x 250kg T + 2x100kg SpE + 2x100kg SpI + 2x 104kg M
FiatBr20ML.8x50T+4x70IP         8x 50kg T (Early, Late) + 4x70kg IP
FiatBr20ML.none            None
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