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[HotelAlpha]

  Hi,

  Currently in Il-2 there is no Russian carrier, and the only true carrier that looks like it is a dedicated machine is the Kuznetsov. It was built in the early to mid 80's and is still in service today.

  Some aircraft that could be fit onto the carrier could be the L-159F (Carrier ALCA) and some helicopter that is skinhacked to resemble choppers that are actually used on the Kuznetsov.

 Later on we could focus on the aircraft and helicopters, though... 

Info on the Kuznetsov carrier

Admiral Flota Sovetskogo Soyuza Kuznetsov (Russian: ??????? ????? ?????????? ????? ???????? "Fleet Admiral of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov") was built by the Black Sea Shipyard in Nikolayev, Ukraine which is the only manufacturer of the Soviet/Russian aircraft carriers. The initial name of the ship was Riga; she was launched as Leonid Brezhnev, embarked on sea trials as Tbilisi, and finally named Kuznetsov.[3] It is an aircraft cruiser (heavy aircraft carrying missile cruiser (TAVKR) in Russian classification) serving as the flagship of the Russian Navy.

She was originally commissioned in the Soviet Navy, and was intended to be the lead ship of her class, but the only other ship of her class, Varyag, was never completed or commissioned by the Soviet, Russian or Ukrainian navy. Later, the hull was sold to the People's Republic of China by Ukraine, completed in Dalian and launched as the Liaoning.[4] Kuznetsov was named after the Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Nikolai Gerasimovich Kuznetsov.
 
While designated an aircraft carrier by the West, the design of the Admiral Kuznetsov' class implies a mission different from that of either the United States Navy’s carriers or those of the Royal Navy. The term used by her builders to describe the Russian ships is tyazholyy avianesushchiy raketnyy kreyser (TAVKR or TARKR) - "heavy aircraft-carrying missile cruiser" - intended to support and defend strategic missile-carrying submarines, surface ships, and naval missile-carrying aircraft of the Russian Navy.

For take-off of fixed wing aircraft, the Admiral Kuznetsov uses a ski-jump at the end of her deck. On take-off aircraft accelerate toward and up the ski-jump using their afterburners. This results in the aircraft leaving the deck at a higher angle and elevation than on an aircraft carrier with a flat deck and catapults. The ski-jump take-off is less demanding on the pilot, since the acceleration is lower, but results in a clearance speed of only 120–140 km/h (75-85 mph) requiring an aircraft design which will not stall at those speeds.[6]

The cruiser role is facilitated by the Kuznetsov's complement of 12 long-range surface-to-surface anti-ship Granit (SS-N-19) (NATO name Shipwreck) cruise missiles. This armament justifies the ship's Russian type designator "heavy aircraft carrying cruiser".


Thank you Wikipedia   

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   So, what do you think? 

[Full Metal Jacket]

yes, most definatly needed, good request +1

[max_thehitman]

I would like a nice delicious tuna fish sandwich.
I make easy requests 

[HotelAlpha]

Why do you say that?

[Full Metal Jacket]

I would like a nice delicious tuna fish sandwich.
I make easy requests 

i second that

[Joberg]

Its a neat idea but would it make sense to put such a short range fighter on a carrier? How does it compare to the Forger range wise? Other than that minor wrinkle I think its a cool idea.

[HotelAlpha]

Maybe we can franken the Yak 38 forger... or make it as a complete mod!     


But maybe if the MiG 21 is loaded with droptanks or aerial refueling.   

[RealDarko]

The russian doctrine for carriers is to use them as fleet defenders, so a point defense fighter makes sense, BUT the Mig21 is totally unsuited for naval aviation, as it have too high landing speed and poor visibility.
Anyway If you like it, why not? Is a game after all!

[SAS~Malone]

go for it, make it, and we will use it

seriously, though, it smacks of bad taste when people start requesting other variants and what if stuff, when the mod itself has only been out for two days.
years went into giving you guys the MiG, and within hours, it seems as if that's not enough, you now want something else again. sheesh, give it some time before making this type of request, please.

[asheshouse]

I assume that this is actually a double request.

1. Navalised version of the MIG21 as a "what if" type  ----- since they were never used on carriers.

2. A ship model of   Admiral Kuznetsov 

I agree with Malone that 1. is a bit premature.

Addressing 2. -- you would need to provide references to detailed modelling plans including comprehensive hull sections and details of all of the fittings. The plans you have posted are insufficient for a detailed model to be produced.

For avoidance of doubt -- I am not interested in modelling a 1990's carrier.

Ashe

[SAS~GJE52]

I was wondering whether a change of slope in the flight deck was possible in IL2 ?

G;

[asheshouse]

I was planning to experiment on exactly that for a model of HMS Furious (WWII version).

She had a small step in the forward flight deck to assist in aircraft handling.
This was an early experiment. I guess they concluded using chocks was simpler.

To model it the collision box for the flight deck will need to have a gradual transition otherwise the under carriage will be broken when the aircraft hits the bump.

You can see the step up opposite the bridge structure in this image.



Ashe