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Krazy_Tom

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missing something between grey_ and Mymap scaling
« on: May 30, 2013, 06:40:16 PM »

As a beginner I have attempted around 10 maps so far and all of them would not accommodate an airfield on the historical map area where it should be.  The map (empty F) is too small by perhaps half in scale to fit the airfield. 

I use Gimp 2.8 and can't seem to crop -grey in the manner demonstrated in the donated Kevin tutorial so I just set scale image on the final subset DEM before it is used to make -grey, -colour and Mymap.  I suspect this is where the mistake is.   Any advice would be appreciated.  I am using Modact 4.0 and #SAS folder in 4.11.1.

The only modded map I have been able to install and use successfully in 4.11.1 is Whitecat's great New Guinea repaint and am wondering if this is because it is a stock map underneath.
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Re: missing something between grey_ and Mymap scaling
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 01:01:54 AM »

  I am using Modact 4.0 and #SAS folder in 4.11.1.

The only modded map I have been able to install and use successfully in 4.11.1 is Whitecat's great New Guinea repaint and am wondering if this is because it is a stock map underneath.

no this is not right,maps are not version dependent and will work on any modded version of the game
as long as you have the map and the textures needed for the map installed it will load

You will also need any custom objects installed, that are on the map in order to be able to save a mission file in FMB

I have all the maps from UP3 and DBW running on 4.11 with no problems at all

As a beginner I have attempted around 10 maps so far and all of them would not accommodate an airfield on the historical map area where it should be.  The map (empty F) is too small by perhaps half in scale to fit the airfield. 

Sorry,not quite sure what you mean The map(empty F)
map F is the far map for a better looking map (in the distance)

I use Gimp 2.8 and can't seem to crop -grey in the manner demonstrated in the donated Kevin tutorial so I just set scale image on the final subset DEM before it is used to make -grey, -colour and Mymap.  I suspect this is where the mistake is.   Any advice would be appreciated.  I am using Modact 4.0 and #SAS folder in 4.11.1.


When you make a DEM in microdem and apply the map area command (set map pixel size), it's usually recommended to choose 50, which is said to mean that 1 pixel = 50meters of real world terrain. That is apparently what Il-2 considers to be 1/1 scale.

If you were to choose a higher number to alter your map pixel size to say 100,
then that would mean that you are now working on 1/2 scale
use 25, then it would be 2/1 scale ...

1/1 scale looks best IMHO
but if you're having memory problems with Microdem and it will not do it at 50 pixel,
then use 100 or whatever it takes, you can also  use 55 or 60 if needed

Higher than that though and mountainous terrain starts to look unrealistic ...
but if the terrain is mostly flat or rolling country/hills, then it doesn't matter very much since deformations won't be very noticeable.

It never hurts to keep these map sizes in mind when map editing:

100% .tga : my_mapc.tga
50% .tga : ed_m01.tga
25% .tga : ed_m02.tga / map_h.tga / map_t.tga / map_f.tga / ed_map_t.tga

The relationship of My_map_c to the other map files is always the same (4/1),
no matter what scale your are using.

Gimp 2.0.7. it is an older version and what I use for map editing,I like it better than the newer version>
https://www.mediafire.com/download.php?3ei6awmr1rawsyl

I also think the tutorial by KevinP for Micro DEM he uses Gimp2.0.7.

Hope this helps a bit
Cheers

 


 



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Re: missing something between grey_ and Mymap scaling
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 05:50:07 PM »

Thanks for that.  I followed your advice and finally got a working [medium] large map.  Next task is ed_m02 and ed_m03. Everything you said turned out correct.  I was able to install Kevin's Tutorial Pacific Island Map so the other mod maps I tried to install previously must have objects or textures not being overwritten in _Tex. I can now work that out.

I don't see much of a future for me in map-making.  Having tried a few and experienced the amount of detail work I think I will stop at one and leave all mods to the experten. That detail includes noticing that the strm's depicting today's lands can differ significantly from how the land appeared in the 40's.  Missing lakes are common which immediately makes me think of missing frogs and other creatures today.

cheers and thanks again
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Re: missing something between grey_ and Mymap scaling
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 07:37:20 PM »

Hi Tom

Nobody becomes an expert until they have made a few mistakes along the way
don't be discouraged,just relax and enjoy it for what it is.... something to do  :)

you can always create more lakes on My_Map_C,for the Frogs and other creatures   ;D

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Re: missing something between grey_ and Mymap scaling
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 11:07:30 PM »

indeed, map work requires LOTS of patience, as it can be very time-consuming ;)
if you have the time, however, give it a go, even if it's just one tree at a time
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