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Eexhaton

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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2013, 10:41:36 AM »

Well... we need a world revolution... but peoples are not ready, for the moment... they have to suffer more to wake up !

The shame is that the only ones actually fighting, weapons in their hands, are the religious fanatics of Middle East..,. and what are they fighting for ? not for a revolution, but for a religious counter-revolution, wanting to go back in time instead of going to a better future... they fight for what they think is god, when they should fight for humans...

This world is upside down, really...
Problem with that kind of revolutions is that the current dicators simply get replaced by new ones.

Look at the situation in Egypt for example.

In South America things like this have been going on for ages as well, bad regimes relying on power and police brutality. I am not surprised by anything like the OP posted.
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2013, 10:41:51 AM »

+1 Gaston
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2013, 01:19:18 PM »

I am very happy to see a discussion like this. To try to explain better, I am making available of all this other video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AIBYEXLGdSg
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2013, 02:59:39 PM »

I'm not used to talk about politics but I think it is worthy to make an exception in this case. Something new is hapening in Brazil. I mean a kind of dictatorship never seen before, at least in modern era. This is the first time I see ALL the "independent" powers (executive, legislative and judiciary) united in a dictatorial sistem. And more, the so called "fourth power", the media is also aligned with the other three so that we have a kind of surrealistic scene here. Dictators from 20th century never dreamed with such a complete control.
Brazilian politic parties have nothing to do with ideology since they are not from left or right wing in a strict sense despite their colors, flags or siglas. They are just theatrical troupes performing a play named "Democracy". They are also united around the same ideas and objectives so that nothing really changes if the people choose this or that.
Brazilian military dictators from the past disdained the power of the media until their regimen collapsed. Dictators from today are not so ingenous. They bought the media.
I decided to make such coments because maybe you think this will never happen in your country with your very enlightened people but keep in mind that hungry for total power is inherent to human being and the "Brazilian way" is already being exported so that you can be the next to be incorporated to this "Brave New World"...
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2013, 03:29:16 PM »

The Brazilian Control (Politicians) has been overwhelmed with Money, Thats all they want, Fuck the rest of their Country as long as they have their Money coming to them!

They should all rot in hell! and die like dogs! Just like my Country Leaders!

Makes me sick
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2013, 03:46:11 PM »

It is not only politicians the problem... the all system is corrupted and rotten to the bone...

Economic leaders (especially bankers) are also, and even more than politicians, the cause of the problems... all the upper class is the cause of the problem, in fact... politicians are just their employees, and do what the upper class tells them to do... if I take my country (Switzerland) as an example, all the economy has been sacrified for the bankers... now, banks have all the power, and they can even destroy the country if the biggest of them fail... and when they are in trouble, the state give them money... so bankers, when they make benefits, keep these benefits for themselves, and when they are in trouble, they ask the state to give them money ! and who pays ? the tax-payer, you and me ! totally unfair.

The rule governing the world now, is : privatize benefits, socialize losses ! it should be the contrary... but this is capitalism and ultra-liberalism...
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2013, 03:48:16 PM »

Oscarito, this sounds so much like what is happening in the US, it makes me want to cry. I am rapidly doing away with the old paradigms like "left" and "right" and "Fascism" and "Marxism" in my own thoughts and replacing them with even older paradigms: Liberty and tyranny. A man is free, or he is not, and granted there are lots of shades of grey in between, but the founding fathers of my country understood the simple truth that Government cannot be trusted, and that the balance of power must remain with the people governed if liberty is to remain. Sadly, we lost our way many many years ago.

"The tree of liberty must from time to time be nourished with the blood of patriots and tyrants"_ Thomas Jefferson.
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2013, 04:12:23 PM »


The New Mega Champion Brazil Enrichment is suddenly the owner of this farm. Fazenda Fortaleza purchased and certified in the Registry of Property.
 
Owner: LUIS FÁBIO LULA DA SILVA (that's right)
  Property: Farm in the region of Valparaíso / SP
  Price: 47 million dollars
 
Well, the Lulinha, the son of President Lula, who 05 years ago was underemployed Zoo in St. Paul, now just bought the farm Fortaleza (closed gate) located on the banks of the Marechal Rondon highway, city of Valparaiso-SP, owned by Mr. José Carlos Cunha Silver, one of the largest producers of Nelore cattle in Brazil, the simple tune of R $ 47,000,000.00 (forty seven million dollars).
 
The impressive track record of success and this intelligence is rare that a salary $ 1,500.00 spent the owner, at once, a heritage of 47 Million. What would take 2612 years.
 
See only competence, soon after buying, led this farm to be the first to receive the Certificate Export of meat to Europe.
 
But it is not only the jurisdiction of ENTREPRENEUR success, and ENTREPRENEUR ...
 
Para regions of Redemption, Maraba and Carajas, HE bought Benedito Mutran Son, heir to the known Bene Mutran (strongman Chestnut) several farms totaling R $ 100,000,000.00 that. Hundred million.
 
Partners in business:
  Duda Mendonça and Daniel Dantas.
 

















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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2013, 04:26:23 PM »

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what your saying, probably a combination of the language barrier and your own well founded anger, but it sounds to me like what we call here in the states "crony capitalism". The politicians have their friends, whom they lavish with whatever regulations and laws they need to do whatever they want, their friends in turn give them "contributions" to their campaigns (or simply buy the election in the worst cases) and whatever other "favors" they can get under the radar. Of course when things have devolved to a certain point, they don't really have to try to hide anything, they just jail or murder anyone who complains. Makes me weep.  :'(
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2013, 04:30:25 PM »

 1 hour ago:



Freedom for what?
 Freedom for whom?
 Freedom to steal, kill, corrupt, lying, cheating, trafficking and addictive?
 Freedom for thieves, murderers, corrupt and corrupting, for liars, drug dealers, addicts and hypocrites?
 Speak of a "night" that lasted 21 years, while closing their eyes to the turmoil, the robbery and outrage that, in daylight, has lasted 26!
 Much is at liberty!
 Freedom which is visible from inside the house, behind bars for safety, inside armored cars and tinted windows!
 But ultimately, what you see?
 It is seen shootings, incompetence, corruption, gangs and gang members, gang warfare and drug dealers, Pacification Police, Army in the hills, negotiating with gangsters, violence and a lot of hypocrisy.
 Looking ahead, we see assaults, rapes, pedophile teachers demoralized, threatened and killed, see "bullying", collusion and lies, we see children who kill, drugged child, starving children, armed children, children dragged, murdered children.
 From the window of the apartment and see the screens of televisions trawlers, blockades of streets and roads, land invaded, attacked slums, crooked cops and armed robbery.
 We live in a lawless land, witnessing massacres, killings and kidnappings.
 A land where the family is not value, where minors are exploited and abused by parents, relatives, friends, countrymen and foreigners.
 But, after all, where do we live?
 We live in the country of impunity where crime pays and the criminal is known, recognized, rewarded, compensated and made a hero!
 Where villains of all collars make laws for themselves, organize "mensalões" sentences and sell!
 In this land, the property of others, anytime and anywhere, is taken from their owners, banks are robbed and boxes exploded.
 It is here, in the land of "freedom", that we find the "cracolândia" and "robauto", "dominated" and guarded by the police!
 We live in the country of veiled censorship, the "microwave", the curfews, the law of silence and the peaceful coexistence of the offender and the lawman.
 Country where thugs rule the crime and life in prison, where farms are invaded, destroyed crops and livestock decimated, not counting when they destroy years of scientific research, sunk!
 But, after all, who is the freedom that you see?
 Wow, we are prisoners of fear and impunity hostages or brigandage organized and institutionalized the controls?
 After all, those were the dark "years of lead" or years of peace?
 We live in And these are years of freedom or compensation of crime, outrage and disorder?
 How much falsehood, lie quanta quanta villainy still have to endure, feel and suffer, until the indignation brings us back to shame, self-esteem and dignity?
 When will we, men and women as well, we will bring back our freedom?

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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2013, 05:17:57 PM »

Freedom is never a gift, it is never acquired... it has to be conquered, weapons in hand if necessary (unfortunately) !

In the Western world, we are sleeping since many years... and now, it is crisis everywhere, ruining democracy... we must wake up !
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Re: Posted by a member from Brazil
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2013, 07:04:40 PM »

Aqui em Brusque - Santa catarina, ja tem protesto marcado. Tamo junto nessa luta!
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