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[HotelAlpha]

 


Whenever I take screenshots I get that jagged line problem on the plane. I use FRAPS. Any help?

   Thanks,

      Hotel

[Herra Tohtori]

Enable anti-aliasing on your graphics card driver control panel.

If you have NVidia card, here's an example of the settings I currently use (fairly conservative but sufficient and these settings don't incur too much performance penalty):



The most important part is "Override any application setting" which you need to select to force driver-controlled AA on the game. AA setting you can choose to your liking (and your card's performance), while the Transparency AA can be set to either multisample (performance friendly but there's some jagged lines on trees, glass, water shore lines, and other details that use alpha channeled textures (transparent parts on the surface).

[HotelAlpha]

Some test screens:



   

Test Passed!  Thanks for your help Herra. 

[BravoFxTrt]

Much better HA!

[Herra Tohtori]

I think those are still just as jagged but it's hard to tell because the JPEG is causing unacceptable blurring and pixellation and other artefacts.

Is your screen capture option in conf.ini set to TGA or JPG? If it's on TGA, could you possibly upload PNG versions of the screenshots?

Did you edit Global Settings or program-specific settings (il2fb.exe)?

[HotelAlpha]

Much better HA!

 
Thanks!

Did you edit Global Settings or program-specific settings (il2fb.exe)?

Only il2fb.exe.

Is your screen capture option in conf.ini set to TGA or JPG? If it's on TGA, could you possibly upload PNG versions of the screenshots?

It's on JPG

But how do I chnage that? I know there is a mod in JSGME called "TGA screenshots" but where is that setting edited in conf.ini?

[HotelAlpha]

More screenies after a change in il2fb.exe. In Nvidea settings I changed the selectior settings but now I changed il2fb.

[Herra Tohtori]

Well I know the stock game produces TGA screenshots in main game directory, but if you have a mod that saves them at MyScreenshots or something you'll probably have a conf.ini switcher of some kind in the [MODS] section. If there is no such thing yet, you'll need to look at your mods documentation to find what it is... I use Benitomuso's 3d/visual mod, and in my case the conf.ini line is PAL3DScrShtExt=tga, not sure if you should have something different there.

Those screenshots still look just as jagged as ever. Tell you what, go to the first page in the 3D Settings on NVidia control panel, it's called "Adjust image settings with preview". It has a rotating NVidia logo. Below that, there are three options. You want to select the middle option.

If that doesn't help either, you can try adjusting your Global Settings instead of program-specific ones.


If that doesn't help either, you should post your system details and log.lst file contents (pastebin.com or code tags).

[paganizonda]

go to the graphic card panel again and choose ""multisample" on antialising transparency

then the jagged lines are gone   

greetings paganizonda

[SAS~Malone]

HA, you say you use fraps for your screenshots - well, fraps also has options for saving as bmp, tga and png format. just change it and try.
just one thing, please do not post png format pictures in the forum, they are a bit too big. rather use jpg or bmp for the forum, please.

[Herra Tohtori]

BMP files are uncompressed and typically larger than TGA, because some TGA files use run-length encoding (RLE) which, while not exactly an effective compression method, does usually reduce image size slightly.

I'm sorry to depart from the thread topic but I couldn't leave

Neither TGA or BMP are a good idea to use for forum; TGA because most browsers can't natively view those images (which means forum bbcode can't show them either), and BMP because they are simply uncompressed, unaltered bitmaps. Images don't get bigger than that. However, I heavily recommend saving screenshots as TGA (or if possible, PNG). You definitely want to have a lossless source image to work from, whatever format you end up uploading to the interwebs.

As for whether JPEG or PNG should be used, both have their places; however, for game screenshots I would exclusively recommend using PNG with high compression. It results in a lossless image that usually only has slightly larger file size than a JPEG of same image, if acceptable (highest quality) compression settings are used.

If there's a problem with loading times of forum posts, it's generally better to take the time to post thumbnail images that link to full-resolution images, rather than reduce the JPEG compression quality - especially in the type of images posted in this thread which are supposed to demonstrate/test a specific graphics issue.

It's almost impossible to determine whether the anti-aliasing is actually working because the JPEG compression itself fuzzies everything up. So it would be good to see HotelAlpha's screenshots in PNG...

[kaxII]

I have HD4670 XD that is pretty low powered!