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[SAS~Bombsaway]

We love flying and one group that stands out so much for thier struggles and triumphs is the Tuskegee Airmen who in thier service never lost one bomber to enemy aricraft. There was another little known mission of the same stature that I just became aware of. The USS Mason. DE 529. A US destoyer manned almost completely by african americans. They fought just as the Tuskegee group to overcome the times of the 1940's and had to wait until 1994 to recieve the accomodation they deserved in WWII.
I would like to request from one of our great ship builders here to remake and honor those men if they would make for us the USS Mason.
 Information on the ship is limited online so I dont have blueprints and other items required of a propper request so I'll posts links to what I could find.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Mason_(DE-529)

http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0oG7iP100RSH2IAJ3RXNyoA?p=the+uss+mason+de+529&fr=yfp-t-326-s&fr2=piv-web

I know that this not enough information for a formal request but its all I could find.

I watched the movie dedicated to this ship and her crew. It may not be a great moive but the story was.

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=the+movie+about+the+USS+Mason

[Phas3e]

Interesting story i hadnt heard of it, thanks

though the 'Never lost a bomber' claim was a myth about the 332nd

http://www.tuskegee.edu/sites/www/Uploads/files/About%20US/Airmen/Nine_Myths_About_the_Tuskegee_Airmen.pdf

[SAS~Bombsaway]

Interesting read. Thank you. I had never read that. Tuskegee aside the men of the USS Mason no matter what their color fought proudly for their country and despite the norrow minded thinking of some people, they should have a place of honor as much as any who fought bravely on any side of the war no matter what country. I think it would be a fine addition to the IL2 fleet if someone would make the USS Mason for IL2.
These men spilled thier blood as many men did from all countries involved in WWII or any war. If we can honor others from other countries weather we believe in thier side or not. I feel it would be nice to honor these men as well.

[Typhoon Ib]

The mason was a Destroyer Escort.
Unlike the Full Blown DDs of Fletcher Caliber (goddamn mini cruisers, if you ask me...)
destroyer Escorty were smaller, lighter Vessels.

Where the DDs were true Combat ships, kind of designed to meet and confront enemy Warships thus playing part in a Naval fleet, the DEs were meant as a Protection force for the slow Transports and Tankers, dropping ashcans on Subs and giving enemy Planes a hellraising welcome of Bofors and 20mm fire.

way back in the day (SHIII) i hated them. from my point of View, in my type IX/c submarine....
DE's stink like hell.
They got the communications between them, they are manoevrable, and have the electronics to track you down to a hundred meters below water surface.
very late a few of them had  a dozen Wasserbomben Throwers, able to waste you even if they didnt drop precisely over your head, or the Hedgehogs, with which a DE can have a go at you like using a shotgun.

They STINK from a U-boot point of View.

The allies would have fared much less good without these ships.

Because DE's are friggin Awesome little workhorses.
All the combat, but none of the Glory.
Glory is Overrated.

and this one manned by, like, "colored people" who had to fight - to be allowed to fight, all that background?
HELL YEA! Good idea!

+1!!

[asheshouse]

This is the Evarts Class (same as Mason) - click on the image for a larger view.
Hull shape and general details are similar to the Buckley class but with a shorter hull.
Full details of the Buckley Class including hull lines can be found in the Anatomy of the Ship Series "The Destroyer Escort England"
Profile Morskie also publishes some Buckley Class plans, USS Gendreau, in their "Destroyers of World War Two No1 "

[SAS~Bombsaway]

Thank you Ashe for the prints and inforamation. Hunder, thank you for your post of support.

[Kopfdorfer]

Re the Evarts Class DE as per Wiki :




USS Mason (DE-529), an Evarts-class destroyer escort, was the second ship of the United States Navy to be named Mason, though DE-529 was the only one specifically named for Ensign Newton Henry Mason.

As I feel it might better serve the sim , I  suggest an Evarts Class DE which could then be skinned by any who want to represent the USS Mason specifically(Or as an RN Captain CLass Frigate for that matter).
                                                 
                                               


The Evarts class destroyer escorts were destroyer escorts launched in the United States in 1942–1944. They served in World War II as convoy escorts and anti-submarine warfare ships. They were also known as the GMT or "short hull" DE class, with GMT standing for General Motors Tandem Diesel drive.
The lead ship was USS Evarts (DE-5), launched on 7 December 1942. The first ship to be completed was commissioned on 20 January 1943 at the Boston Navy Yard; it was delivered to the Royal Navy under the Lend-Lease provisions and became HMS Bayntun. Evarts-class ships were driven by diesel-electric power with four diesel engines mounted in tandem with electric drives. The ships were prefabricated at various factories in the United States and the units brought together in the shipyards, where they were welded together on the slipways. The original design specified eight engines for 24 knots but other priority programs forced the use of only four with a consequent shortening of the hull.
In all, 105 Evarts-class ships were ordered with 8 later being cancelled. The United States Navy commissioned 65 while 32 Evarts-class ships were delivered to the Royal Navy. They were classed as frigates and named after captains of the Napoleonic Wars and formed part of the Captain class along with 46 ships of the Buckley class.

Name:
Evarts class destroyer escort
Operators:
 United States Navy
 Royal Navy
 Republic of China Navy
Preceded by:
N/A
Succeeded by:
Buckley class destroyer escort
Planned:
105
Completed:
97
Cancelled:
8

                       
                       


General characteristics
Type:
Destroyer Escort
Displacement:
1,360 tons (fully loaded)
Length:
289 ft 6 in (88.2 m) (overall)
Beam:
35 ft (10.7 m)
Draft:
9 ft (2.7 m) (fully loaded)
Propulsion:
Propellers: Two of solid manganese bronze 8.5 feet each
Speed:
19 knots (Many ships were capable of 21–22 knots)
Range:
5,000 miles at 15 knots
Sensors and
processing systems:
Radar: Type SL Surface search fixed to mast above yard arm and type SA Air search only fitted to certain ships.
Asdic (Sonar): Type 128D or Type 144 both in retractable dome.
Direction Finding: MF Direction Finding antenna fitted in front of the bridge and HF/DF Type FH 4 antenna fitted on top of mast.
Armament:
Main Guns: 3 × 3 inch/50 guns in open mounts and fired fixed shot (anti-aircraft, armour piercing or starshell) and had a range of 14,600 yards at 45 degrees and an anti aircraft ceiling of 28,000feet.
Anti aircraft Guns: 7 × Oerlikon 20 mm guns positioned one in front of the bridge behind and above B gun also one each side of B gun in pods and two each side of the ship in pods just abaft the funnel (some of the ships had an extra Oerlikon fitted on top of the superstructure midships, the odd ship had a twin Bofors 40 mm gun instead of the extra Oerlikon).
Hedgehog: British designed ahead throwing mortar which fired 24 bombs ahead of the ship, this was situated between A and B guns.
Depth Charges: Up to 160 depth charges were carried. Two sets of double rails at the stern held 24 per set. Two K gun throwers each holding five charges were situated each side of the ship just forward of the aft depth charge rails. Just forward of these, double ready rails extending to midships were fitted each side of the ship holding approximately sixty charges per side (these ready rails were added after the ships arrived back in the UK).


List of US Evarts Class DE
USS Andres (DE 45)   
   USS Austin (DE 15)   
   USS Bebas (DE 10)   
   USS Brackett (DE 41)   
   USS Brennan (DE 13)   
   USS Burden R. Hastings (DE 19)   
   USS Cabana (DE 260)   
   USS Canfield (DE 262)   
   USS Carlson (DE 9)   
   USS Charles R. Greer (DE 23)   
   USS Cloues (DE 265)   
   USS Crouter (DE 11)   
   USS Crowley (DE 303)   
   USS Decker (DE 47)   
   USS Deede (DE 263)   
   USS Dempsey (DE 26)   
   USS Dionne (DE 261)   
   USS Dobler (DE 48)   
   USS Doherty (DE 14)   
   USS Donaldson (DE 44)   
   USS Doneff (DE 49)   
   USS Duffy (DE 27)   
   USS Edgar G. Chase (DE 16)   
   USS Edward C. Daly (DE 17)   
   USS Eisele (DE 34)   
   USS Elden (DE 264)   
   USS Emery (DE 28)   
   USS Engstrom (DE 50)   
   USS Evarts (DE 5)   
   USS Fair (DE 35)   
   USS Fleming (DE 32)   
   USS Gilmore (DE 18)   
   USS Greiner (DE 37)   
   USS Griswold (DE 7)   
   USS Harold C. Thomas (DE 21)   
   USS Le Hardy (DE 20)   
   USS Lovering (DE 39)   
   USS Manlove (DE 36)   
   USS Martin (DE 30)   
   USS Mitchell (DE 43)   
   USS O'Toole (DE 527)   
   USS Reynolds (DE 42)   
   USS Sanders (DE 40)   
   USS Sederstrom (DE 31)   
   USS Seid (DE 256)   
   USS Smartt (DE 257)   
   USS Stadtfield (DE 29)   
   USS Steele (DE 8)   
   USS Tisdale (DE 33)   
   USS Walter S. Brown (DE 258)   
   USS Whitman (DE 24)   
   USS Wileman (DE 22)   
   USS William C. Miller (DE 259)   
   USS Wintle (DE 25)   
   USS Wyfells (DE 6)   
   USS Wyman (DE 38)   
   USS Connolly (DE 306)   
   USS Creamer (DE 308)   
   USS Delbert W. Halsey (DE 310)   
   USS Drury (DE 46)   
   USS Ely (DE 309)   
   USS Finnegan (DE 307)   
   USS Halloran (DE 305)   
   USS John J. Powers (DE 528)   
   USS John M. Bermingham (DE 530)   
   USS Keppler (DE 311)   
   USS Lake (DE 301)   
   USS Lloyd Thomas (DE 312)   
   USS Lyman (DE 302)   
   USS Mason (DE 529)   
   USS Rall (DE 304)   
   USS Willard Keith (DE 314)   
   USS William C. Lawe (DE 313)

List of RN Captains Class Frigates (Evarts Group)
    
Berry    K312[3]    (B)DE-3    Edward Berry    Boston Navy Yard    22 September 1942    23 November 1942    15 February 1943    Returned to US Navy 15 February 1946,[3] sold for scrapping, 9 November 1946    
Blackwood    K313[3]    (B)DE-4    Henry Blackwood    Boston Navy Yard    22 September 1942    23 November 1942    27 March 1943    Torpedoed on 15 June 1944 and foundered the next day[3]    HMS blackwood K313.jpg
Burges    K347[3]    (B)DE-12    Richard Rundle Burges    Boston Navy Yard    8 December 1942    26 January 1943    2 June 1943    Returned to US Navy 27 February 1946,[3] sold for scrapping, 14 November 1946    
Capel    K470[3]    DE-266    Thomas Bladen Capel    Boston Navy Yard    11 March 1943    22 April 1943    16 August 1943    Sunk on 26 December 1944[3]    
Cooke    K471[3]    DE-267    John Cooke    Boston Navy Yard    11 March 1943    22 April 1943    30 August 1943    Returned to US Navy 5 March 1946,[3] sold, 1947    
Dacres    K472[3]    DE-268    James Richard Dacres    Boston Navy Yard    7 April 1943    19 May 1943    28 August 1943    Returned to US Navy 26 January 1946,[3] sold for scrapping, 14 December 1946    HMS Dacres.jpg
Domett    K473[3]    DE-269    William Domett    Boston Navy Yard    7 April 1943    19 May 1943    3 September 1943    Returned to US Navy 5 March 1946,[3] sold, 3 June 1947    
Drury    K316[3]    (B)DE-46    Thomas Drury    Philadelphia Navy Yard    12 February 1942    24 July 1942    12 April 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 August 1945,[3] scrapped, June 1946    
Foley    K474[3]    DE-270    Thomas Foley    Boston Navy Yard    7 April 1943    19 May 1943    8 September 1943    Returned to US Navy 22 August 1945,[3] scrapped, June 1946    The Royal Navy during the Second World War A24868.jpg
Gardiner    K478[3]    DE-274    Arthur Gardiner[4][5]    Boston Navy Yard    20 May 1943    8 July 1943    28 September 1943    Returned to US Navy 12 February 1946,[3] scrapped, June 1947    
Garlies    K475[3]    DE-271    George Stewart, Viscount Garlies    Boston Navy Yard    7 April 1943    19 May 1943    13 September 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 August 1945, sold for scrapping, 18 July 1947    
Goodall    K479[3]    DE-275    Samuel Goodall    Boston Navy Yard    20 May 1943    8 July 1943    4 October 1943    Torpedoed on 29 April 1945;[3] sunk by gunfire from HMS Anguilla (K500) 30 April 1945[6]    
Goodson    K480[7]    DE-276    William Goodson    Boston Navy Yard    20 May 1943    8 July 1943    9 October 1943    Damaged on 26 June 1944[7] and declared a Constructive Total Loss,[7] returned to US Navy in January 1947[7]    
Gore    K481[7]    DE-277    John Gore    Boston Navy Yard    20 May 1943    8 July 1943    14 October 1943    Returned to US Navy 2 May 1946,[7] sold for scrapping, 10 June 1947    HMS Gore 1944 IWM FL 13520.jpg
Gould    K476[3]    DE-272    Davidge Gould    Boston Navy Yard    23 April 1942    4 June 1943    18 September 1943    Sunk on 1 March 1944[3]    
Grindall    K477[3]    DE-273    Richard Grindall    Boston Navy Yard    23 April 1942    4 June 1943    23 September 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 August 1945,[3] sold for scrapping, May 1946    HMS Grindall 1944 IWM FL 5505.jpg
Hoste    K566[7]    DE-521    William Hoste    Boston Navy Yard    14 August 1943    24 September 1943    3 December 1943    Returned to US Navy 22 August 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, May 1946    
Inglis    K570[7]    DE-525    Charles Inglis    Boston Navy Yard    25 September 1943    2 November 1943    12 January 1944    Returned to US Navy 20 March 1946,[7] sold for scrapping, September 1947    
Inman    K571[7]    DE-526    Henry Inman    Boston Navy Yard    25 September 1943    2 November 1943    13 January 1944    Returned to US Navy 1 March 1946,[7] sold for scrapping    HMS Inman 1944 IWM A 23707.jpg
Keats    K482[7]    DE-278    Richard Goodwin Keats    Boston Navy Yard    5 June 1943    17 July 1943    19 October 1943    Returned to US Navy 27 February 1946,[7] sold for scrapping, 19 November 1946    
Kempthorne    K483[7]    DE-279    John Kempthorne    Boston Navy Yard    5 June 1943    17 July 1943    23 October 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 August 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, May 1946    
Kingsmill    K484[7]    DE-280    Robert Kingsmill    Boston Navy Yard    9 July 1943    13 August 1943    23 October 1943    Returned to US Navy 22 August 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, 17 February 1947    
Lawford    K514[7]    DE-516    John Lawford    Boston Navy Yard    9 July 1943    13 August 1943    3 November 1943    Sunk on 8 June 1944[7]    HMS Lawford 1944 IWM A 21817.jpg
Lawson    K516[7]    DE-518    John Lawson    Boston Navy Yard    15 July 1943    13 August 1943    25 November 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 March 1946,[7] sold for scrapping, 31 January 1947    
Loring    K565[7]    DE-520    John Wentworth Loring    Boston Navy Yard    18 July 1943    13 August 1943    15 November 1943    Returned to US Navy 7 January 1947,[7] sold for scrapping, 25 March 1947    HMS Loring 1944 IWM FL 14933.jpg
Louis    K515[7]    DE-517    Thomas Louis    Boston Navy Yard    9 July 1943    13 August 1943    9 November 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 March 1946,[7] sold to Commonwealth of Pennsylvania 17 June 1946    
Manners    K568[7]    DE-523    Robert Manners    Boston Navy Yard    14 August 1943    24 September 1943    16 December 1943    Damaged on 26 January 1945,[7] declared a Constructive Total Loss[7] and returned to US Navy 8 November 1945,[7] scrapped 1947    
Moorsom    K567[7]    DE-522    Robert Moorsom    Boston Navy Yard    14 August 1943    24 September 1943    10 December 1943    Returned to US Navy 25 October 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, July 1946    The Royal Navy during the Second World War A25520.jpg
Mounsey    K569[7]    DE-524    William Mounsey    Boston Navy Yard    14 August 1943    24 September 1943    23 December 1943    Returned to US Navy 27 February 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, 8 November 1946    HMS Mounsey 1944 IWM FL 16484.jpg
Pasley    K564[7]    DE-519    Thomas Pasley    Boston Navy Yard    18 July 1943    30 August 1943    15 November 1943    Returned to US Navy 20 August 1945,[7] sold for scrapping, 8 November 1946


Anyway a good idea for a request!

Cheers,

Kopfdorfer