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[The Radge]

Hello, Mike! What about this?

Hello guys! I would like ask some... I've noticed, that comparing to other planes, engine sound for Yaks and Tempests/Typhoons is much more louder... Anyone else have this with MA 5.3?

[SAS~Storebror]

Hm...
The sounds are unchanged from previous Modact versions, I think they've been exactly like that since Modact 3.
If there are better sound packs out there (despite UV3 which is nice but not suitable for integration into Modact) be my guest and show them to me

Personally I didn't notice any major engine sound glitches so far, despite the Fw-190 being amazingly silent to me, both inside, outside and flyby views.

Best regards - Mike

[The Radge]

Mike, I haven't ever tried other sound packs with better sounds, for now I really like the taste of SAS ModAct sounds, before this I never used the other sounds except default ones Well, this thing I mentioned makes me upset, and I really don't know where can it go from... I prepared a little video that illustrates that thing... I hope it will help It's low-quality, but shows the things well. I compared only the sound of the Yak-9 with sound of La-7, P-51 and P-40... Except Yaks, also Tempest and Typhoons have that bug, for me...

PS: I use the most latest SAS buttons I have found, if that can help

Video (I think, already not needed)

[SAS~Storebror]

Partly confirmed.
I've just checked the external engine sound files of La-7 and Yak-9 as an example for this comparison.
This is what the amplitude of the two files looks like in dB (log). Light blue is average, dark blue is peak value:

La-7:


Yak-9:


As you see, the average volume for the La-7 is around -14dB, for the Yak-9 it's about -10dB. That's about 40-50% louder.

Now the question is: What's historically correct?
I mean not every engine has the same volume level, so just normalizing all sounds will not give good results.
Anyone with reliable sources out there?

Best regards - Mike

[The Radge]

I don't really sure if it will help, but here are two different videos about the Yak-9 and La-9 with well hearing engine sound.

[The Radge]

According to the video, I offer the Spitfire (Griffons) sound, or something like it to replace the current Yaks sound. By the way, this problem is also for the LaGGs, because they used the same engine. Also this problem may touch the Pe's, I haven't tested... The M-105/7 (VK-105/7) engines were pretty wide spread, so this may touch some other planes... Who else something thinks, offers?

PS: About the Tempests, with the same loud engine problem, no thoughts... May be just make the sounds 20-30% quieter? They have very powerful engines that may have such a loud sound. And the current is good, but should be a little quieter, I think.

[The Radge]

Offering to replace the Yaks sounds with the Griffon's one, I meant only the low revs, because, as can be heard from video, the high revs sound we have in the game are very good comparing to the real plane.

[SAS~Storebror]

Thank you very much for your efforts Radge, but I'm afraid that it doesn't get us anywhere.
What we'd need would be some historical data with sources.
What we get currently is feelings, opinions and estimations.
I won't touch anything based on that, if someone else wants to, just go ahead.

Best regards - Mike

[christopher0936]

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm a serious n00b to modding il2.

I've noticed that most mods require installation through the "mods" and "files" folders but I can't find these in my il2 folder. Am I being stupid or is this a glitch?

[SAS~Storebror]

You're not stupid and it's not a glitch either, it's just history.
Back in the old days modding was done in the folders "files" and "mods" which you've mentioned.
Nowadays we have distinctive folder names which replace the "mods" folder, like "#SAS" for Modact 5 or "#DBW" for Dark Blue World games.
So when you want to add a mod to your Modact 5 game and the mod tells you to install it to the "mods" folder, install it to your Modact's "#SAS" folder instead.
If the mod wants to be installed in the "files" folder (should rarely be the case) install it into "#SAS/ZZZ" instead.

Best regards - Mike

[christopher0936]

thanks for the help