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C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« on: February 01, 2014, 01:58:05 AM »

At the outset of the Spanish Civil War both sides used what aircraft they could lay their hands on, regardless if they were military or civilian. And some of the civilian ones were converted into improvised combat aircraft.

The one that probably was the most important was the civilian DC-2, that were hastily converted into a bomber, and was used in action for the first time just tow days after the outbreak, when two DC-2 bombed Tablada. It had quite an effect because of its speed it was almost impervious to interception to the standard fighter used in those first nonths of the war: the Nieuport D.52.

I wonder - could anyone try and do a makeshift DC-2 bomber?

There is no 3d work involved. It just needs to be able to carry bombs. It also was equipped with two defensive MG's that fired out through the side windows on the sides. (On at least one, an MG was also installed in the font cabin window, and operated by the second pilot.) The bombs were not carried in racks, but inside the passengers compartment, and were simply pushed out of the open side door!



The bombs used were also of an improvised nature: 10 x 60kg bombs, sometimes combined with 12kg bombs and live mortar rounds (!) The largest projectiles that the converted DC-2's could carry in this way were 100kg bombs.

I don't think that this needs an open cargo door etc. Bombs just dropping underneath the bird, combined with two defensive MG's will do quite nicely!  :)

Any takers?  :P
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2014, 03:15:59 AM »

+1

And if for SCW also the Fokker Trimotor and IIRC the Dragon Rapide were used in such task....
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2014, 03:42:19 AM »

We already have an armed DC-3 in game : the Li-2 !

-it has a turret (and even lateral MGs too), and
-it can carry bombs !

So, there is no need to create a new slot for a duplicate aircraft...
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2014, 03:48:08 AM »

It has lateral MG's and bombs, but the turret and the engines are a bit of a give-away that this is not really a DC-2...  ;)
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2014, 03:53:51 AM »

+1

And if for SCW also the Fokker Trimotor and IIRC the Dragon Rapide were used in such task....

Yes, it would be great to have these carry some bombs as well. Both WERE used as improvised bombers in the SCW. The "combat" Dragon Rapides also had a fixed MG in the nose of the aircraft, fired by the pilot. Giving them bombs would make them even more useful!  :)
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2014, 06:43:47 AM »

Well if we're nitpicking, not even the standard C-47 that we have is a DC-2 but rather a DC-3

DC-2 was somewhat smaller (~3m shorter wingspan), lighter, had different (significantly weaker) engines...

If we're just to adapt the existing C-47 by adding some bombs and beam machine guns, we might as well be using the Li-2, they're both equally "wrong" (or "right" - depending if you're a glass half empty or a glass half full guy).
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2014, 07:33:45 AM »

Well, as I see it from a GAMING point of view the wingspan thing, weight and the engines are a less problematic thing than the existence of a big glassed back turret...

 

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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2014, 08:06:13 AM »

I'm sure there was a mod for the C-47, whereby bombs came out the back door. It was mentioned as a South American model, maybe Chaco war?

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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2014, 09:16:13 AM »

I will look for it! Thanks for the tip!
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2014, 12:24:47 PM »

Or maybe someone would prepare the Hudson or Lockheed -10 or -12 - more famous than the DC-2?
Or Dougals American bomber B-18 Bolo?
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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2014, 06:14:18 PM »

OR WHAT ABOUT A C-47 WITH JET ENGINES THAT DROP BOMBS AND GOT ROCKETS AND GOT GUNS IN THE NOSE?

IF YOU GONNA FRANKEN....FRANKEN ALL  THA WAY HOMIE!


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Re: C-47/DC-2 bomber version
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2014, 10:25:07 PM »

This is actually a useful request..

Arab forces used c-47s converted into crude bombers during the Arab-Israeli War in 1948. 

I am for the idea! +1
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