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4.12 / 5.3
Hey guys, a boatload of thanx. This is just swell! Even the P-35 works fine.

[Paulo Hirth]

   Hi StoreBror, Soberb work Sir! Just a litle detail, one of great qualities of P-47 was his stability when open fire, and now i notice have a big shake left/right, is this from 4.12.2 patch, or is this a MOD change? Thank you!

[SAS~Storebror]

i notice have a big shake left/right

That's intentionally implemented for the early bubble-top Jugs (-27, -30) which suffered a lot from yaw instability (causing a kind of "sway" during cruise flight) which got extremely worse when the guns were fired. The pilots claimed much about this annoying behaviour and eventually got their issues solved with the introduction of the dorsal fin extension on the -40 series (later retrofitted in field to earlier Jugs too).

Best regards - Mike

[Paulo Hirth]

   
   Really my information was wrong, I do not remember where I read that the P-47 was a base of stable shot, you did a deep research and realism is always welcome, thanks!

[Stefan SG]

Dear Mike,
Firstly let me to thank You for this excellent mod. Yr Jugs are superb.
Concerning P-47D-27/-30 behaviour let me ask You with all respects if there is possibility to reduce their instability when the guns are fired. Allied forces used thousands and thousands bubble-top P-47D-27/-30 for the moment when P-47D-40 was produced. They fought with success but it could be impossible without effective weapons.
P-47D-27/-30 of this excellent mod are too instable , it is practically impossible to hit targets.

That's intentionally implemented for the early bubble-top Jugs (-27, -30) which suffered a lot from yaw instability (causing a kind of "sway" during cruise flight) which got extremely worse when the guns were fired. The pilots claimed much about this annoying behaviour and eventually got their issues solved with the introduction of the dorsal fin extension on the -40 series (later retrofitted in field to earlier Jugs too).

Best regards - Mike

[SAS~Malone]

Stefan, although i agree that it makes shooting really tricky, i feel i have to relate what i experienced with this see-saw effect while sneaking up on the six of a formation of bombers.
when firing at the coright distance - i believe it was about 250-300m away, the effect, while quite horribly swinging from left to right, also somehow seems to maintain a level firing platform - in other words, i simply let the see-saw effect run its course, didn't try to fight it in any way, and due too the relatively stable platform, i had somehow managed to hit all 4 bombers extensively, 3 going down without further assistance from me, and the fourth just needed a few more rounds to convince them to bail, as well.
so, actually, in this particular circumstance, the effect was quite productive

[Stefan SG]

Dear Malone,
Thank You for Yr kind info. The problem was that P-47D fought mainly against Axis fighters in 1944-1945. To shoot down Bf-109 or Fw-190 using P-47D-27/-30 of this superb mod is really extremaly thing.

Stefan, although i agree that it makes shooting really tricky, i feel i have to relate what i experienced with this see-saw effect while sneaking up on the six of a formation of bombers.
when firing at the coright distance - i believe it was about 250-300m away, the effect, while quite horribly swinging from left to right, also somehow seems to maintain a level firing platform - in other words, i simply let the see-saw effect run its course, didn't try to fight it in any way, and due too the relatively stable platform, i had somehow managed to hit all 4 bombers extensively, 3 going down without further assistance from me, and the fourth just needed a few more rounds to convince them to bail, as well.
so, actually, in this particular circumstance, the effect was quite productive

[rkalhorn109]

Great work.  I love this mod.  I notice on my 4.09 install that I'm hearing an occasional ringing sound (exactly like an old fashioned telephone) during dogfight maneuvering.  Is that a bug or a feature?  If a feature, is it some kind of alarm, like a stall warning?

[barrett_g]

Great work.  I love this mod.  I notice on my 4.09 install that I'm hearing an occasional ringing sound (exactly like an old fashioned telephone) during dogfight maneuvering.  Is that a bug or a feature?  If a feature, is it some kind of alarm, like a stall warning?

Which block are you flying?  Some of the later P-47 models had a rear facing tail radar that warned when a plane is on your six.

[rkalhorn109]

Which block are you flying?  Some of the later P-47 models had a rear facing tail radar that warned when a plane is on your six.

P-47B and C.

[SAS~Malone]

i'm also keen to find out about that ringing sound.
my money's on  it being a feature, i'd just like to know more about it...

[Fresco23]

.. ??? for whom does the bell toll....?