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[nzmigman]

MIG 21 PF, PFM, FL missing engine sounds, and internal canopy mesh in cockpit view...
MIG 21 with Radar just missing engine sounds

Solved by copying my_presets and my_samples folders from MIG21 Dir to root dir my_presets and my_samples
Must look there for its sound library

[SAS~Monty27]

MIG 21 PF, PFM, FL missing engine sounds, and internal canopy mesh in cockpit view...
MIG 21 with Radar just missing engine sounds

Not so for me or any of the testers, so it may be you are missing something your end.  Lets see if others can confirm.

[SAS~Monty27]

Hi Monty,

Dog with a bone again. Re my post 116, problem with QMB/FMB. Sorry to pester you with this again. I have rolled back my install to TFM412#12 and QMB missions and QMB maps load and run ok. After install of TFM#13, main game loads ok but QMB missions stall and CTD at 85% loading stationary objects. This appears to be something to do with the GAZ-66 trucks mod included in the TFM#13 pack. I have d/l again pack #13 and re-installed with same result.

Can you look into this and confirm if you are aware of a problem with the GAZ-66, or if there is a possible corruption in my pack #13 d/l?

Promise I won't bother you with this again. Ever. Maybe.

Bergkamp

Its not a problem Bergkamp. - By which I mean, it really isn't a problem! 

Here's the SITREP:
Stock 412 - a few maps with Stock QMB.
TFM-412 - A shitload of maps and more stuff, waiting for a QMB that can handle it.

Solutions:
Learn FMB and start writing the missions you want.  FMB is the beating heart of Il2 and this is what TFM-412 is for.

Wait for QMB-412 to be developed further.

While there are many added objects and aircraft in TFM-412, nothing is removed from Stock 412.  This is deliberate, so as not to break Stock QMB or DGen.

We do need to take a look around QMB and get it up to speed, and any input and help on that is appreciated.

If we are to make progress on this we need to get specific: "QMB missions stall and CTD at 85%" is not right is it?  ALL QMBs?  Not so as far as I can see.

Things to Check:
RAM setting on selector - recommend 512, people often push it higher and run out of resources when loading maps.

Test each QMB from Scramble to all other states.

Before anyone says; "you should have done this before releasing TFM-412.
a)We did.
b)We haven't done anything to stock QMB.

[SAS~Gerax]

I can't open many of the maps. I've downloaded Map Mods 1 and 2. I unzipped them and installed both in the #SAS/MAPMODS/STD folders.

wrong folder. It should go to #SAS/MAPMODS/maps.

I'm unsure about inserts. Hope below is one.

you used img code instead code. I repaired it. now the log shows up.
read here how to do this  :
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,13457.0.html

[SAS~Gerax]

Can you look into this and confirm if you are aware of a problem with the GAZ-66, or if there is a possible corruption in my pack #13 d/l?

Did a quick check:
I installed the GAZ-66 trucks in a fresh vanilla 412.2 MA5.30 (without tfm of course),
old Smolensk armor QMB worked well, no CTD. So its not this GAZ mod.

But yes, I have the same problems in TFM with some QMB missions as you and other described it where I have a sudden CTD. Will try to find out wheres the culprit. 

[SAS~Monty27]

Can you look into this and confirm if you are aware of a problem with the GAZ-66, or if there is a possible corruption in my pack #13 d/l?

Did a quick check:
I installed the GAZ-66 trucks in a fresh vanilla 412.2 MA5.30 (without tfm of course),
old Smolensk armor QMB worked well, no CTD. So its not this GAZ mod.

But yes, I have the same problems in TFM with some QMB missions as you and other described it where I have a sudden CTD. Will try to find out wheres the culprit. 

I had similar issues in FMB with the new#TFM412-19_Map-Pack-3 - I think we may have the culprit here:

TIGER33's Sounds - An ongoing classfile conflict with this mod makes it unsuitable, at present, for the TFM-412 modset.  It is recommended to disable TIGER33's Sounds by adding (-) to the folder:Il2.../#SAS/!#_UV3

You must also disable (-) tigersounds_1.sfs and tigersounds_2.sfs inside the SFS_AUTO folder.

This is all about the jump from 410 to 412, some of the conflicts have only revealed themselves with later addons.  Since we want stability above all it is best to disable the !#_UV3 folder for now.  In time we may well see a 412-fix for this wonderful soundset.  We all want it and are trying hard to fix it. 

Sorry to put it on hold for now.  We will eventually get there with TIGER33's Sounds, I am sure of that, and we will keep trying.

[SAS~Gerax]

Yes, thats it. Thanks for the finding Simon, spares me a lot time. 
(I was looking for troubles in the inis etc.  ).

[SAS~Gerax]

PS: I added this PAL mod for 412, I recommand to have it!
Works OK so far. 
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37311.0.html
(look for the second ! dl in the first post dated with 2013/10/09!)

it brings not only 3d but more and better views and the Refuel/Rearm feature etc!!! 

[flugkapitan]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the reply! I re-installed as you suggested and applied all the fixes (including the latest round of them). All seems to work well. My FOV's are back to the way they should be. I've only flow stock mission thus far in the Luftwaffe Fighter North career with I/JG54 and haven't gotten the TrackIR error msg. The only minor annoyance, is that the a/c starter sound is stuck in a loop, constantly playing in the background of the engine noise (yes, I disabled Tiger's sounds).

Thanks again for your help and your efforts!

Regards,
Scott

[SAS~Monty27]

Hi Simon,

Thanks for the reply! I re-installed as you suggested and applied all the fixes (including the latest round of them). All seems to work well. My FOV's are back to the way they should be. I've only flow stock mission thus far in the Luftwaffe Fighter North career with I/JG54 and haven't gotten the TrackIR error msg. The only minor annoyance, is that the a/c starter sound is stuck in a loop, constantly playing in the background of the engine noise (yes, I disabled Tiger's sounds).

Thanks again for your help and your efforts!

Regards,
Scott

OK, this is because you must also disable (-) tigersounds_1.sfs and tigersounds_2.sfs inside the SFS_AUTO folder.  Have added that info to the instructions!

[SAS~Monty27]

Awesome work Monty but there is one essential pack missing

#TFM412-666_AREA51 Time Zone
When activated will allow you to enter a different space-time continuum where you can spent entire weeks while being absent from Earth for only a couple of seconds:
- no more fuss about downloading delays
- no more whining by your partner / family / beer buddies / pet about spending too much time on an unhealthy activity
- time to read the manuals before install...and time to solve the bugs caused by not reading the manuals before the installs
- you can then finish the 325 campaigns you have begun on your 15 IL2 installs...or try to make them compatible with the new UP4.5/DBW6.0 that has just been released on SAS
tested and proven by all the outstandings modders of the SAS team (how do you think they can achieve so much in so short a time?)

  Shit - That's where we go - Don't tell my wife! ???

[flugkapitan]

OK, this is because you must also disable (-) tigersounds_1.sfs and tigersounds_2.sfs inside the SFS_AUTO folder.  Have added that info to the instructions!

Once again - thank you!

Scott