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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2014, 06:56:37 AM »

I wouldn't call these flats "nightmare houses".
The exterior doesn't look pretty good but inside you can decorate your appartment as you like.
For example this is the block in which I'm living and the next one is the block in which my grandma lives.

https://www.google.ro/maps/@45.764528,21.21589,3a,75y,343.2h,89.52t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1shjKlmRe-mm5gc2SIqn8LEg!2e0?hl=ro

https://www.google.ro/maps/place/Strada+Timi%C8%99+5,+Timi%C8%99oara/@45.764738,21.223186,3a,75y,161.74h,109.95t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1skDkY5Cv7OH5Eu6FUTzZHWQ!2e0!4m2!3m1!1s0x4745678e58d1abaf:0x3654b8c23d49564c?hl=ro

And also if you isolate them with polystyrene they totally change their look into something nicer. Examples

https://www.google.ro/maps/@45.763329,21.220221,3a,75y,280.57h,99.97t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s0vTVtdFRmTT0_6w_zJ9MwA!2e0?hl=ro



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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2014, 11:56:04 AM »

Yay, polystyrene! Yes, since they polysterened the houses in my region-town, it begun to look like totally new city! :D
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2014, 01:24:58 PM »

It is possible to paint and create new buildings for the IL2+mods using the already available
3d-models we already have.

I couldn't find boxes that are close to required proportions anywhere, that's why this request was born. Most of current Il-2 buildings have rather large and un-soviet looking roofs, and flat-roofed ones are either way too small or have different shape. If you happen to find one that fits and can share it, I will owe you a lot of beer, Max!

There is another brand of Soviet mass-produced buildings, called Stalinkas. Those were built before Khrushchiov and we already have their pre-war variants in game. Post-war variants can be made just by painting skins with less decorations.

And also if you isolate them with polystyrene they totally change their look into something nicer.

Yeah, I guess covering those houses and painting them bright is big thing all across eastern side of Europe. But (at least for me) their appearance is not the worst thing. The real problem is everything else: after many decades of usage their sewerage and plumbing gets trashed, and to repair it you often have to demolish half of a house (remember, they were build to be temporary, and therefore access to vital parts was not intended). Their roofs are almost specifically designed to leak. Their walls are way too thin for some winters (there is a rumor that originally Khrushchiovkas were designed in and for France)  and even if you cover them in double layer of the best insulator, you can still hear every fart of your neighbor. Also, those houses, especially earlier variants, are very very cramped. You feel like living in a shoebox.
(I am sorry for my little rant, that won't happen again =] )

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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #27 on: July 21, 2014, 02:58:24 PM »

It is possible to paint and create new buildings for the IL2+mods using the already available
3d-models we already have.

I couldn't find boxes that are close to required proportions anywhere, that's why this request was born. Most of current Il-2 buildings have rather large and un-soviet looking roofs, and flat-roofed ones are either way too small or have different shape. If you happen to find one that fits and can share it, I will owe you a lot of beer, Max!

AH! Thank you good friend, you will buy me a barrel of beer  ;D
Many times I look at the static objects we already have in the game, but only look at the shape of it, not
what it is painted on it.
When you inspect the shape of the object, you can imagine that same 3-d-model to be something else.

To create these type of 1930 public housing complexes we already have a large building with a slanted roof design.
I have used it before to create a German "above-ground bunker"  ;)  The "Hochbunker"
Those buildings were very big , very well built, and they saved many civilians when their cities were being bombed.

Now the same shape of this 3d-model can be used as this building you are asking for.
Look at my old post and see the screenshot of these bunkers.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,35572.0.html

The object I am talking about is the one on the left side of the image. It is the big tall 3d-model with
a rectangular shaped base.
The emergency doors I painted on the model buildings (red doors) are exactly the proper size for our game human models.
There is no need to make the doors bigger or smaller. This model will give you some good ideas as to what you can
paint on it and create these housing complexes.

I cannot remember which folder contains the original model, but you can check out the folder where I have
my bunker version and you can use it to create your new houses  :)

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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #28 on: July 21, 2014, 04:37:26 PM »

Max, you are a hero. LOL!

The problem is solved.
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2014, 06:11:35 PM »

Thanks for the info on what they're like to live in.

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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2014, 07:16:17 PM »

I think we might have a Krushchov-whatsit in the game already as a stock object though.




There's also a 3 or 4 story white residential building that is in the Finland set, IIRC.
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2014, 11:28:05 PM »

this thread is locked, and will likely be removed, pending an investigation into comments that have caused a prominent member to leave the site.
i can assure you all in this thread - there will be repercussions.
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2014, 06:26:48 AM »

right, thread unlocked, carry on, gents - just beware, i will not tolerate any personal insults here, be it via forum post or PM, it's irrelevant - we don't have a shitload of rules here, but this is one of our most basic ones, and it will be enforced.
any of you who are quick to throw an insult and think you will get away with it, i urge you to think twice before doing so.
as you were, carry on in peace and good spirits...
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2014, 03:09:35 PM »

It appears there are several similar buildings, at least three along with one showed by Mandrill.


In a free time I'll check which one has the most suitable size. I guess we will have our Khrushchyovkas soon. I'll paint them in a week or so, along with big barrel of beer for Max!
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »

Paint them all Valkas. That way, we will have as many Krushchyovkas as possible.
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Re: Khrushchyovka. Let's build some soviet cities!
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2014, 11:32:40 PM »

I'll paint them in a week or so, along with big barrel of beer for Max!

so, is the barrel of beer also going to be painted? we don't have any beer in IL2 atm, which is a shame :D
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