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[Mogami]

Hi all

Ive decided to play IL2 again after few years. Ive look up this forum and because Iam offline palyer I downloaded whole DBW 10gb superpack. After 6h of downloading (my internet sucks) I install it, run the game and the only thing I see new are planes and some graphics. Thats coool but I wanted mainly new campaings. So I go back to this forum studying and digging stuff. I get absolutley confused with the ridiculous amount of mods.  Please tell me order of patches mods downloads. I want mostly some new fresh dynamic campagin in the game possibly with some new planes. I have IL2+DBW so what else I need to download?

Thanks for any recomendations Iam really desperate.

[SAS~Malone]

whole DBW 10gb superpack. After 6h of downloading (my internet sucks)

hi, and welcome to the forums
lol, i just had to comment on this first - if you consider 6 hours to download 10GB as sucky internet, i'd hate to think what you consider as good.
that would take me about 6 days to complete, lol
anyway, on to your questions - most of the mod packs, DBW, HSFX, etc do not ship with new campaigns and missions, for the simple fact that it would increase the already large sizes to download, which we try to reduce as much as possible.
there are several new campaigns specifically built for most packs - these aren't difficult to find - just to confuse people, we have most of them in the section called Missions, lol, and its sub-sections.
also, DBW campaigns are in the section mysteriously titled 'DBW Campaigns and Missions'
so, there's not much to say about that really, other than if you are a new guy, it will take some time and require some reading on your side, we simply can't repeat all the info every time a new guy asks.
also, other sites such as M4T, has a wealth of missions, campaigns, skins, etc for these mod packs.
i'm not trying to be a wiseass, we do seriously ask everybody that we expect them to take the time to read through the forum first. pretty much everything you could want or ask, has already been asked and answered in the forum, and we are not big on repeating this same info over and over.
please, just spend some time looking through the sections and sub-sections - i don't expect you to read every thread, but the sections alone make it easy enough to find what you want.
if you are looking for something specific, just ask and we can help.
but providing all such 'general' info every time someone asks is simply not practical, as i hope you understand.

[Mogami]

whole DBW 10gb superpack. After 6h of downloading (my internet sucks)

hi, and welcome to the forums
lol, i just had to comment on this first - if you consider 6 hours to download 10GB as sucky internet, i'd hate to think what you consider as good.
that would take me about 6 days to complete, lol
anyway, on to your questions - most of the mod packs, DBW, HSFX, etc do not ship with new campaigns and missions, for the simple fact that it would increase the already large sizes to download, which we try to reduce as much as possible.
there are several new campaigns specifically built for most packs - these aren't difficult to find - just to confuse people, we have most of them in the section called Missions, lol, and its sub-sections.
also, DBW campaigns are in the section mysteriously titled 'DBW Campaigns and Missions'
so, there's not much to say about that really, other than if you are a new guy, it will take some time and require some reading on your side, we simply can't repeat all the info every time a new guy asks.
also, other sites such as M4T, has a wealth of missions, campaigns, skins, etc for these mod packs.
i'm not trying to be a wiseass, we do seriously ask everybody that we expect them to take the time to read through the forum first. pretty much everything you could want or ask, has already been asked and answered in the forum, and we are not big on repeating this same info over and over.
please, just spend some time looking through the sections and sub-sections - i don't expect you to read every thread, but the sections alone make it easy enough to find what you want.
if you are looking for something specific, just ask and we can help.
but providing all such 'general' info every time someone asks is simply not practical, as i hope you understand.

I have few specific questions:
1/what is TFM-412? Its mod that goes after DBW or separate?
2/ DCG is required for most campaigns what is the link to download it? And how to install it just copy over or trough JGSME?
What is the difference between these two?
DCG 4 DBW Standard package:           

DCG 4 DBW Mod package:               

Thanks for advice

[SAS~Malone]

i can answer # 1 for you - TFM412 is the latest mod package that is based off DBW.
what this means is, it doesn't require DBW to be pre-installed, but it DOES require that you use some of the files that are part of DBW.
specifically, the SFS files. these will be needed for it, but you do not need an existing full DBW install, just those files.
it's also important to know - the original DBW pack (ver 1.71) is built for the 4.10.1 patched version of IL-2, which is rather outdated now. the TFM412 pack essentially is the old DBW made to work with the latest, 4.12.2 version of the game, with many extra newer mods as well.
to my mind, this is the most comprehensive mod pack currently available.
and there are several great new campaigns available, and still being made, that are designed to specifically work with TFM412
as for # 2, i'm not very clued up with DGEN side of things myself - rather wait for someone who knows more to answer that for you.
i have not used any of these new DGEN options in my games, and so far most campaigns have worked fine for me...
anyway, there are some DGEN experts here, best to wait for them for the correct answers to your queries...

[Mogami]

Thanks Ive found it all Iam going to install  TFM-412.

[SAS~Malone]

good choice - just remember, take your time to read through the instructions, and if you have ANY doubts, ask before you do something you're unsure of...

[tomoose]

Mogami;
DCG is a standalone program that generates it's own campaigns (although you link it to IL2).  It can be used for offline or online play.
Dynamic Campaign Generator (DCG) allows you to create enemy and friendly squadrons, define an area of conflict then it will generate missions based on that.

www.lowengrin.com is the website of the original creator.  The whole thing is explained there.

Essentially it saves the user the trouble of building every single mission in FMB which can be a long and involved process to produce a large campaign.  For example, the TFM Battle of Britain campaign is 65 missions which were custom made by the creators over roughly a year.  The reason they didn't use DCG was to add their own customization and keep it historically accurate.  Additionally DCG doesn't recognize some of the elements of 4.12.2 and it will adapt to the mission results (i.e. if the Germans keep winning then they could win the campaign etc).

So there is a trade-off;  Quick, dynamic campaigns in which missions are 'randomly' generated and the campaign outcome can go any way  OR  individual customized (and very detailed) missions created one at a time in FMB to create an overall campaign which may or may not be historically accurate.