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[AG-51_Razor]

Will this be a  wide carrier, on the Hancock  like all il2 carriers you a aircraft in pairs, but in BOYAN picture looks like Four  A-7 across the flight deck

I could be wrong but those 4 planes spotted on the fan tail sure look like F8U Crusaders to me, not A-7's. Regardless, they weren't much different in size when the wings were folded.

Karla, it is looking great!! Thanks for the update.

[Hatter]

I agree, the two scoops one either side of the tail seem to point to F-8s, along with the larger exhaust.

[karla]

Thank you for the interest, pilots.

@Boyan - FLOLS are added but inactive. Sorry I'm not going to modify the snub bow of BHR (I didn't notice 'till you pointed it out). It'll look OK as it is, I'm sure.

In between re-modelling and texturing I was distracted slightly creating this image with the Blender Cycles renderer. . Its posted on the Blender Artists forum and I thought I'd post it here too.

The bits of BHR are almost ready for pulling together, aligning, checking and creating LODs, shadows and collision boxes. There's always something new to improve or fix but I've got to stop sometime. I've then to use another PC to create the meshes and then test back in the game on my main PC. Western is going to help create the stand-alone file so we should be ready in a few weeks (I don't like a slipped deadline - but what the heck).

[BOYAN]

@Boyan - FLOLS are added but inactive. Sorry I'm not going to modify the snub bow of BHR (I didn't notice 'till you pointed it out). It'll look OK as it is, I'm sure.

She looks great Karla! FLOLS are a great detail even if inactive! Personally, I like long hull bows more than snub short hulls, but that is one of the main difference between Essex class carriers, in any period... Can the bow from the Western`s release be used perhaps? Its the short hull version... Anyway, me and my nitpicking again...

There is one more thing if I may suggest then I`ll shut up... It`s concerning the carrier crew. The size between flight deck crew and bridge crew is not the same, the bridge crew is bigger and thus makes the bridge look smaller. Take a look here:

RL shot:


Would it be possible to make the bridge crew a bit smaller?

[karla]

Images from Blender screenshots - I've still not managed to assemble a whole new ship and test it in game yet. The semi-transparent items - radar, nets, ladders - just show as black or white in these model shots.

Thanks for the interest again chaps.

Almost there .......
Quite a lot more work this period but it hardly shows. Take my word for it there's a lot more detail now.

Comparing with my original wish list these features will NOT be included -

modify and add to Rawners carrier crew
rotating radar
working FLOLS (we have a static version, but I see western is working on one that may be incorporated sometime)
flight deck static equipment; vehicles, trollies (probably best with Rawners carrier crew)
jet blast deflectors (haven't got the time to take advantage of western's existing JBDs)
extra waves - especially extended wake (IL2 hook manipulation is too complicated for me)
elevator up/down option
mission with task force disposition

I'll keep you posted.

[Clint Watters]

Shame about the JBDs.

But your carrier certainly is a big improvement, especially the new "meatball".
I'm very glad to see you added this one

Cheers

Clint W.

[karla]

Blender screenshot 1280x720

I've asked western0221 to help me in the final stages. Among other things we've agreed are that full hull details should be included - so all hull, rudder and propellers are re-instated. Four rotating radar have been tested and they all work in game. I'm working on jet blast deflectors at the moment and have modelled and textured them but have not understood how to implement in game. We'll fix that soon. I'll also put some effort into a working FLOLS with lots of western0221 help.

Most modelling has been completed now - just added two walers tonight - so I'll run over everything quite a few times before exporting .3ds files for western to turn into a workable IL2 craft.

In between times I am still practising carrier landings with an F-4E, in an F-9 cockpit, and have to abort or bolt nearly every time. I have not yet seen anyone do a good and repeated jet carrier landing with IL2 (or any other sim) on YouTube. Are there any proficient Navy pilots out there?

[kukulo]

Well, few jet era versions ago I flew Phantom and practiced carrier landings. It was difficult land on deck without crash. Do not know if newest Phantom versions are better in landing behavior than previous I flew.

First, CVA class carriers are smaller than Forrestal, Constellation or Enterprise for example. Landing on smaller deck is allways bit more complicated in comparation with larger deck. Second, you are trying land with land based F-4E. Try navy versions F-4B and F-4J. This will not help you probably... But improves you feeling as navyman 

Yes it is possible land on CVA class carriers with Phantom, but needs practise... Try higher speed for carrier and some headwind maybe too.

This Phantom wears navy jacket (forgot which version /B or J/, click on image there is short video):



This Phantom wears Royal Navy jacket (really do not know Phantom version /but surely B or J/, again click on image):

[Clint Watters]

I made a video about the carrier landings for the F-4. The video is refering to what Karla said. It's a very hard to land this plane on a carrier.
You have to find yourself below 300km/h when you toutch deck, otherwise the gear could break.
I watched many F-4 carrier landings, they always seem to drop altitude gradualy and keep their nose up. Only thing is, I can't see what's in front of me if I pull it like in the historical videos. I fly only in cockpit view with the F-4 cockpit from 4.12 when I land. I think it's a better training.

Here is the video I told you about:


There is one plane that's very very easy to carrier land. The FJM-3 Fury (sabre). If you're not so good at carrier landing and you want to practice with a jet engine. This is the one to go for in my opinion. Perfect speed is around 250km/h for this one. I've also noticed some people carrier land with their airbrakes out. Some others don't use them.

[karla]

Thanks CW and kukulo.

I just want to fly a Phantom - that's why I created some HD skins for it (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,36258.msg397723.html#msg397723, https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,34294.msg370227.html#msg370227). The only carriers available were western's Essex angled decks (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,24177.0.html) - so I started the long journey to enhance them (https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37025.0.html, https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,37026.0.html).

The length of the deck doesn't really matter - it's the strength of the deck - where Essex were used for F-4s under restricted conditions. You have to aim for one wire only. I didn't want to model Midway class because I don't find them attractive and Nimitz are much too modern for the IL2 game. (I wonder what the F/A-18 guys are going to use .....).

I know the conditions required for landing  and I know it's the most demanding activity in aviation. That's why I'll keep practicing and still maintain that I haven't seen any good videos nor anyone landing an F-4 like a navy pilot with better than 86% trap/bolter rate. Maybe we'll start a separate thread with a challenge on this.

[duffys tavern]

Nice landing Kukulo. Shows it can be done.

[BOYAN]

Thanks CW and kukulo.
 I didn't want to model Midway class because I don't find them attractive and Nimitz are much too modern for the IL2 game. (I wonder what the F/A-18 guys are going to use .....).

What are your thoughts on ships between Midway and Nimitz classes ( Forrestal, Kitty Hawk, Enterprise)? With the F-18 and 14 coming, any supercarrier will do IMO, Nimitz entered service in 1975... With the job you`ve done on SCB-125, damn, I just wonder what the supercarrier would look like...