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[Mission_bug]

For those who have not been able to get the mod working in HSFX 7 please try this:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38980.0.html

Great!!It work very well with the potez familly and the MB-174.Thanks

Glad to know it now works for you kirlir.

For me, sadly the MB-174 causes a CTD when I go to click the QMB button. ???

Edit: If you use one aircraft mod at a time they will work quite happily, however, there seems to be some limit as to how many can be added together at the same  time into HSFX 7.

For me it is a single mod, the Potez family or the MB-174, others have more success.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[Bison_M]

For those who have not been able to get the mod working in HSFX 7 please try this:

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,38980.0.html

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

Added in 1-st post.

Regards

[greybeard]

I couldn't resist to try it in 4.09 (+UP2.01) and I found 633 working anyway. Both 631 and 630 give same error message:





Furthermore, I would say that first thing I noticed in external view was the "hole" at root of what was Ki-45 vertical fin: I wish you finding a solution.



Last for importance, I would propose for 633 not to "pop out" bombs from lacking bomb bay, but adding external racks like in that scheme we saw in a previous message: I know it's not so historical, but more credible in my humble opinion.

Thanks again for this much appreciated gift!

Respectfully,
GB

[Bison_M]

I couldn't resist to try it in 4.09 (+UP2.01) and I found 633 working anyway. Both 631 and 630 give same error message:

Furthermore, I would say that first thing I noticed in external view was the "hole" at root of what was Ki-45 vertical fin: I wish you finding a solution.

Last for importance, I would propose for 633 not to "pop out" bombs from lacking bomb bay, but adding external racks like in that scheme we saw in a previous message: I know it's not so historical, but more credible in my humble opinion.

Thanks again for this much appreciated gift!

Respectfully,
GB

Hi Greybeard!

  Thank you for your comments and suggestions. As for bugs in 3D - I warned them, and if solutions were found, the release would be in a different form. I still hope that the problem with the holes in the tail will be resolved by the next update. Will it be possible to change the position of bombs - while I can not say.

As of version 409 - here Sir Epervier may be able help to you when he will have time to adapt mod Potez to 409.

Regards 

Bison

[Mission_bug]

Hello guys, the information Dreamk kindly supplied indicates the following regarding the centre line rack:

The two (in tandem) center-line bomb racks were for BE 33 flares (one each for each bomb rack) and were poitioned between the under fuselage gun gondolas

There is no indication it was used for the main armament which appears to be 110lb (50kg) bombs.

However there are operational reports that 63.11 series aircraft were indeed equipped with one 50kg bomb under each outer wing section.

Unfortunately I do not know at the moment if it is possible to actually add racks where the above mentions, besides, the 63.11 I believe is a different version from what we produced.

I could actually just use the Ki-45 pylons and hang two bombs on with a equivalent weight to the total bomb load carried by the Potez 633, something I did with the MB-174, however, that was considered incorrect for the MB and so would I am sure be so for most in this instance, dammed if we do, dammed if we do not.


Dropping the bomb load from the current position seemed the best compromise in my mind.


I did actually look at making a bomb bay:





These are actually two of the bombspawns for the above, the lower and higher at each corner:




The current bombs drop from the bombspawn of the original racks which were moved in and up to give the current location, not
the best way of doing it I concede.

You will appreciate that creating the bay and the runners as well as removing the doors and making ones that opened would have been a rather time consuming process, ask yourself, would you do it?


I have tried all the aircraft in my old UP 2, sadly for some reason I just got a blank in the arming screen for the weapons, the aircraft showed ok though, however, if I went to fly I got a error message indicating something was wrong with the armament.

I had used what appears to be stock weapons in these aircraft, but for some reason UP 2 did not like it.

I only recently fired up my UP 2 and was faced with a CTD, admittedly it has been some years since I played it, that I sorted.  Thing is I am so out of touch with what makes that install tick so I leave those things to Master Epervier.

Anyway, real life issues mean I probably will not be doing much if anything in the sim for a while so any alterations to this and the MB-174 may have to come from somebody else.

Wishing you all the very best, Pete.

[SAS~Poltava]

Yes, I guess there is always a sort of cost/benefit analysis at work here as well. I am perfectly happy with this aircraft without a bomb bay. (At least until someone comes along with plenty of time to do one...) The main roles of the aircraft has been covered as it stands, and it is fully usable in the game. In fact, I am building a campaign for it as we speak, and your aircraft works like a charm!

Thanks again fellas, for a SUPER job! 

[Uzin]

Successfully installed this marvellous crate in  iL2 4.101 SAS  MODACT 3.06, but:
it became impossible to set trust to another value than about 30 per cent, both for me and autopilot, with joy and keyboard.
Moreover, this thrust setting freezed  around 30 % appeared also at other airplanes, not only Potez 630.
After removing the Potez 630 from the installation, all returned to be OK, planes now have thust adjustable as it should be.

[Bison_M]

Successfully installed this marvellous crate in  iL2 4.101 SAS  MODACT 3.06, but:
it became impossible to set trust to another value than about 30 per cent, both for me and autopilot, with joy and keyboard.
Moreover, this thrust setting freezed  around 30 % appeared also at other airplanes, not only Potez 630.
After removing the Potez 630 from the installation, all returned to be OK, planes now have thust adjustable as it should be.

Hello Uzin! Thanks for your comments. I tested Potez in 4101 + SASmodakt 3.06 SASenginmod with and without it. Nothing of the kind

described by you I did not happen. If you are interested in Potez, possible to get your log?


Regards

Bison

[Bison_M]

Furthermore, I would say that first thing I noticed in external view was the "hole" at root of what was Ki-45 vertical fin: I wish you finding a solution.

Respectfully,
GB

Regards

Bison

[greybeard]

Definitely much better!

Thanks for your dedication.

Regards,
GB

[Bison_M]

Hi all! Potez family 630, 631 and 633 for 4.10 and 4.12 ver 1.27 Beta   20 August 2014




https://www.mediafire.com/download/y2yj2z4j43eaz0e/Potez-63_family_v_1.27.7z

In this version added:

Variant bombs load for 633 on pylons under

wings and saved the previous version - inside the fuselage.



In 630 changed oil cooler air intakes.

For all models, changed the position and size of the stabilizers and rudders

direction.

Fixed distortion rudders and keels.

Revised DM.

As for experiment for 630(multi) made version C-3 with three pilots.



Navigator is not the correct location, due to the inability to change

its place in the 3D model in that moment.




WE apologize for the bugs in 3D and DM.



Enjoy!

Mission_bug and Bison_M

[woofiedog]

Excellent work... thank's.