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[Knochenlutscher]

Thanks for your attention Mate, excuse me Jero, I meant only POV in cockpit view.
My drawing in first post estimates the current position of things as you see them in Cockpit and needed moves to corrections.
Outside it's alright. When you switch inside, the Wings are at a freaky level, while the cowling is missing completely.
A new POV managment, would change things positively. Only 3-D part that needs overhaul is the Canopy frame, rail/ w. two parts canopy
and chair, needs armrest, maybe a bit fitting... 
As for the possible I'm overasked.

Outside view is OK, the discrepancy is in Cockpit view.  \
Watch the wingroot here. Current shortcoming. It's my high raised POV, so way higher than yours.


 2 from our 3 POVs are fine.
-POV default is OK, relaxed fit position,
-POV Gunsight AIM is debattable, but still OK.
-POV high - Problem high up position I mean the seats up POV, spring lifted seat raising, I viewed wartime stills, look at #1 below, he sits raised,
could they lift the seat? Think yes, traced a spring attached behind a Museum kite. I saw this in torpedo excersises and Landing patterns the usual seated high position.
It gives a better forward-down visibillity around the cowling. A feeling I miss in current high POV.
Default and Aim are rather natural, but high is weirdo.

sth POV like that, look at the framing, wingroots, impression...


Our current high POV has Players head turned up towards sky.
Angle must be further down, to imitate a natural move/position.
Before

After


Relaxed (stock POV) is looking below vertical frame, high up/raised seat is looking over it and around forward
cowling, you can have a good forward visibillity then, with wingroots partially in the outer
perimeter of view, and sufficent, but not sophisticated sky/upward look.

Best galery I could find of a pit. Good Avenger resource, especially the Canopy framing and inside view, chair is rest-less version.
http://motty.hobbyvista.com/Warbirds/Avenger/Interior-Details/Interior-Turret-Cockpit/index_2.html
http://motty.hobbyvista.com/Warbirds/Avenger/Interior-Details/Interior-Turret-Cockpit/index_3.html

Hint, Hint, gives as precise seatings for relaxed POV and appearance.

Seat mechanism:


The Avenger seat, please note the Armrests and spring attached. Yellow lever at right side of the seat below is seat lever!


Another thing, the upper canopy rail we have missing, see the original.
#1  "raised seat Avenger position

#2 relaxed seat Avenger position



To have it something like this, maybe? A simple rail makes things better. Photoshoppe...


During skinning and flying the Turkey I felt in love with it, it's such a beautifull plane.

Thanks Jero for taking your time, if you have hints, please feel free.
Wishing you all the best
Tobias

Avenger Cockpit Framing


Avenger official TBM-3 Manual
http://www.avsimrus.com/f/documents-16/grumman-tbm-3-avenger-pilots-handbook-of-flight-operating-instructions-32916.html

360° Views of original Avenger Cockpits (Gunsight view POV position)  Wings are folded
http://www.airspacemag.com/panoramas/tbm-avenger-180954039/?no-ist

In this example the seat lacks it's original springs and is too low, unfolded Wings
http://www.navalaviationmuseum.org/nnam/virtualtour/

[Knochenlutscher]

Found a solution for DBW Users and think this helps some folks...

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,2728.0.html
P51s from AAA UI 1.2

A small note for P-51D-20NT

inside Archive P-51_Cockpit´s_Fix.7z
find folder Cockpit/P-51D-20NT(K14)
Users must rename

Blister.msh

to

Code: [Select]

Blister_D0.msh
Kind Regards
Tobias

[karo]

Hi Guys! The link of F6F cockpit is dead already Can somebody refresh it? Please

[SAS~Gerax]

Karo, try the attached file and - please - report if this works for you.

[karo]

Thanks a million SAS~Gerax! It works fine

[SAS~Gerax]

It works fine

Thanks for the response.
Added the link to the first post as attachment.

[SAS~Tom2]

Cough...Mike, in case you read this.. I know you like the F6F...personally,  a plane I rarely fly, do not like the physics sooo much as with many IL-2 single engine props. If you would like t o add a tad of your Jugs reloaded magic there , I would go and add a better mirror to the pit, canopy reflection changed and a few other tidbits.
Frankly, I like the plane, but for the default Fm I would not invest work. 
The only plane where I did that was the Stang family...I hate their stock FMs but these are my fav single engine props.

Cheers

Thorst.

PS: Of course this was menat a tad humurous, atm I am in the P-51B and I was half joking.
Glad the F6F was uploaded again, thanks for that.

[SAS~Tom2]

PS Sorry for typos. Sad what beer can do to a keyboard.
Will delete both posts tomorrow maybe. Albeit my offer stands as long as I see well enough to use gimp and Irfan View.
Carry on chaps.

[karo]

Frankly, I like the plane, but for the default Fm I would not invest work. 

You should try Aaken's FM for this bird. You will love it. I hated Hellcat in a past, because with its default FM, the plane behaved in the air like a toy for noobs. The situation has changed when I tried HSFX. Aaken's FM makes a difference (e.g. you can even put the plane into a spin).     

[SAS~Tom2]

Frankly, I like the plane, but for the default Fm I would not invest work. 

You should try Aaken's FM for this bird. You will love it. I hated Hellcat in a past, because with its default FM, the plane behaved in the air like a toy for noobs. The situation has changed when I tried HSFX. Aaken's FM makes a difference (e.g. you can even put the plane into a spin).     

Maybe I will do one day.
Cheers

Tom

[nelsonluis7]

Hi gents:
I want to know where are the files of cockpits? I am not a modeler but I want to try to modify the p-39 cockpit 

Regards

Pa_Jeronimo I beg you for taking a closer look at P-39 Airacobra cockpit. It really needs your help.

[PA_Jeronimo]

I want to know where are the files of cockpits?

Check your PM.