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[duffys tavern]

I agree, these a/c are excellent. As for RL, I think, most pilots are and always have been notoriously  loyal to the a/c no matter what they were flying.

[4S_Vega]

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yes, it is just this that i want to reproduce here in game with last works on F-16/18

F-16 block30/40 are the most exuberant fighter in the game about climb speed and ecceleration due theyr T/W ratio, but F-18C block 36 is not too far, and it stay closer again to F-16A/C block 10/25 in acceleration

However, the Falcons have the leadership in all aspects that concerns energy of maneuvers

The Hornets, on the contrary, wins when the speeds are lower.

I tend to prefer the falcon as duel fighter (in game and in RL), have an advantage as acceleration and operating energy is unavoidable , an experienced pilot would be thick lead against the hornet.

The Hornet have more BVR capacity (depends by variants), but missiles performances are the same, so the advantage is canceled

we can say that an F-16A/B block 5/10 is less strong as fighter compared to an F-18D block 29, Falcon wins only in close energy combat, Hornet wins at low speed but have a big BVR advantage with Sparrows/Amraam and better radar

F-16C block25 is a bit better of F-18D block 29, but F-18C block 36 go a bit ' forward, because have a very small energy gap, but better low speed performances and better radar range

From F-16C block 30 Viper globally lead as Fighter at 360°

It must be said that both are worst than the F-4 Phantom as supersonic acceleration and maximum ceiling


i think, as fighter

Viper A/B < Hornet block 29 < Viper block25 < Hornet block 36 < Viper block 30/52/Soufa < Viper block40

[Koty]

Say what you want, but MiG-21 is enough to bring them down

[4S_Vega]

Say what you want, but MiG-21 is enough to bring them down

yes, in war all could happen 

However, a MiG-21bis, (or also an F-4E/J) with a good pilot is an opponent to be reckoned for the Falcon A

But the viper has the acceleration, the energy in sustained turns or clibms that allows him to take off his opponent also if it is at 6 o'clock

similar for the Hornet, but the block 29 has a not important acceleration or climb gain against Migs, it can only turns

[4S_Vega]

But hey, Hans Dortenmann shot down Pierre Closterman and his wingman who were flying Hawker TYPHOONS in an inferior Fw-190 D9.....

Fw-190D9 worst than Typhoon?? lol 

[4S_Vega]

Fw-190D9 worst than Typhoon?? lol 

It happened at low altitude, with good cloud-cover....

Perfect Typhoon territory, hell for D9s.... The D9's domain is high-altitude hit and run interceptions... Not dirty dogfights down in the weeds..

maybe you mean a Tempest, Dora have 50km/h advantage against Typhoon at low altitudes

[4S_Vega]

backing to this mod, i had only to solve a compiling problem, then is ok

[4S_Vega]

New Bug report : F-18C seems to be tracking it's own missiles as enemy missiles.......

Tested for both F-18C and D models, all 3 AIM9, 120 and 7...

About sidewinder tracking, i solved it but i have some compile problem, i need only time

[Mopat]

Same as me, Zachtan. I think Vega only need time to solve problems...
Az Koty former said-even a Mig-21 are enough. So, in war over Lebanon(1980's) an syrian Mig-21 bis even succesfully hit an F-15A with R-60M missile. Regardless than F-15 series are better than contemporally F-16 and 18 blocks, so basically combined F-4's max speed with F-18's radar capacity and F-16 like energy and power...(far ahead Balalaika-21)
Also, the mentioned F-15 survive the hit and could return its base...(R-60 have rather small warhead...)

[SAS~Tom2]

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i think, as fighter

Viper A/B < Hornet block 29 < Viper block25 < Hornet block 36 < Viper block 30/52/Soufa < Viper block40

A Block 40/42 is nothing much better than a Viper Block 50/52-if at all-simply the LANTIRN Night capable version with the huge HUD frame. Block 50+/52+/60/61 is another story.
Personally, the F-16A versions were the coolest to me. Those and the MLUs with the cool black cockpit layout.

..an F-104 would beat them all...with pure style.

[4S_Vega]

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i think, as fighter

Viper A/B < Hornet block 29 < Viper block25 < Hornet block 36 < Viper block 30/52/Soufa < Viper block40

A Block 40/42 is nothing much better than a Viper Block 50/52-if at all-simply the LANTIRN Night capable version with the huge HUD frame. Block 50+/52+/60/61 is another story.
Personally, the F-16A versions were the coolest to me. Those and the MLUs with the cool black cockpit layout.

..an F-104 would beat them all...with pure style.

block 40 have a better radar compared to block 30

and better T/W ratio compared to block 52

[MarvinT]

Greetings SAS team and mod users. Thanks for your work and input. I have used the fantastic F-16 and F-18 mods , original Betas when they were released. I had to reinstall my 4.122m due to  corrupted new downloads.  I believe these mods work perfectly. I have downloaded  and reinstalled the above mentioned at least six times. Upon reading about other users problems, I compared downloaded folders.  Missing cockpits, no two downloads identical. Game loads okay but no bomb ( load outs were installed  ) load outs when activated, no cockpits as stated. Only the AV8 shows in the selection and when activated a BF109 shows in its place. The only error indicated in the log file is no cockpit!  Besides having the downloads interrupted ,and attempted hacks on the Media Fire site.  No problem with any other of my Jet War installs.  I  know there are no real problems with these mods. Keep up the good work.