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[greybeard]

I was reflecting (pun intended ) about various attempts to get some perception of canopy perspex, as seen from cockpit interior.

This is often achieved by reducing transparency, adding "things" that let "see" the glass, like scratches, smudges, blemishes and such.

I think real canopy glass should stay clean. If we see it in RL, it is just because, like all transparencies, it "reflects" something (please see following examples):

reflecting


not reflecting


So, generally we don't see canopy perspex from inside (indeed, we want to see landscape, not the canopy ), but it reflects, in certain condition, something inside the cockpit.

The only instance where I saw this, is about Ju-188:



where you barely can notice how control column reflects on front glass (arrows point in particular to its red button).

Just my thoughts.

Cheers,
GB

[Ranwers]

I made this as mirror in game.

[SAS~Poltava]

Amazing job, really!

[Mick]

... there is another one, much older than the Ju188, that was made by Capt Flushmeister (a.k.a John Wallin Liberto) that you can see in his FW190s cockpit repaints (later modified by Claymore in his FW190/Ta152 pack)





... and here is (in .jpg format instead of the original .tga format) the texture that does this:



Here is John Wallin's site (check the Aviation page)

http://www.johnliberto.com/

https://www.google.fr/search?q=john+wallin+liberto&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=wv9mVZ3CJ4rWoASAv4CoBw&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1408&bih=670

http://designspartan.com/presentation/30-creations-incroyables-du-concept-artist-et-matte-painter-john-wallin-liberto/

[SAS~Tom2]

Some pits where I increased or added or changed reflections..all available at SAS




















F-80, F-6F, P-51, Mig-21PF/PFM, P-38, front shields often with Jeronimo's help!

[greybeard]

Mick, Tom,
sorry, there's a misunderstanding: Ju-188 control column mirrored image MOVES! It is not just "painted" on the glass!

Ranwers
I would learn how to do.

[Mick]

... ah OK, THX Greybeard, I didn't know (I never fly bombers ...)

[max_thehitman]

This is a very interesting topic.

I always wanted to have dead bugs and mosquitos splattered on my window 

[Ranwers]

Ranwers
I would learn how to do.

See:
Mirror on the glass:



Here see mirror moved up (for better look):



Mesh glass read glass file.
Mirror read mirror file.
Thats all.

[WxTech]

That reflection of the control column on the glazing pretty much directly ahead of the pilot's position must be of the copilot's column. The angled panels ahead cannot reflect the pilot's column back to the pilot.

It is really neat the kinds of things we can get this game to do that either would formerly have been a hardship on older computer hardware, or what the developer originally didn't envision or have the resources to expend the time on.

[WxTech]

It is worth pointing out that the 'softness' of plexiglass meant there was usually some degree of sleeking from cleaning, and some smattering of minute pits, all of which would scatter light. And if not recently given a good wiping down, there could be 'stuff' on the surface which would also scatter. Sunlight directly illuminating any glazing that's not pretty near immaculate in cleanliness and polish will cause some degree of scatter.

For this reason alone I do not at all like *really* clear canopy glazing. And I do quite like enough 'shmutz' to be easily enough seen because it greatly reinforces the presence of a material one is looking through. And it makes the truly clean view when the canopy is opened all the more appreciated. and this. With 6DOF active, head movement and the resulting translation of the 'dirty' glazing greatly reinforces the sense of movement and location within the 'pit.

[greybeard]

Ranwers

Thanks for your explanation.

Although it would be possible improving it, as many in this thread have observed, personally I echo Poltava's comment. I think you set a new standard, hopefully followed by other modders.

Greetings,
GB