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MiG-17PF 450 JG-1 German Democratic Republic
« on: June 25, 2015, 09:14:50 AM »

Hello guys

I'm requesting a skin for the MiG-17PF Tactical Number 450. It flew in the Jg-1. My granduncle, Leutnant (Lieutenant) Arndt Eichhorn crashed with her at 03.07.1962. It had the normal silver Paint Scheme.
Could someone make the silver one and one with camo? And could you make it with the number and the markings of the gdr?

Thanks in advice
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Re: MiG-17PF 450 JG-1 German Democratic Republic
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2015, 10:06:38 PM »

Sad to hear that,
You can see that is a popular kite, published in nearly every MiG-17 literature, not sure if it is your uncle at the stick,
in Yefim Gordons MiG-17 publication, page 84

450
Lim-5P/MiG-17PF
1D 01-06
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http://www.flugzeugforum.de/threads/40338-LSK-Kennungen
The data is compiled from a variety of sources amongst other from the famous large book
dealing these Tactical numberings and belongings, SUMIG or what the name of that book was.

We have a 450 already skinned in overall aluminium, is included in my latest NVA-LSK.
PF never wore camo in the LSK, I will make an exceptional fictional on your behalf.
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=2149
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Re: MiG-17PF 450 JG-1 German Democratic Republic
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 06:13:46 AM »

Sad to hear that,
You can see that is a popular kite, published in nearly every MiG-17 literature, not sure if it is your uncle at the stick,
in Yefim Gordons MiG-17 publication, page 84

450
Lim-5P/MiG-17PF
1D 01-06
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http://www.flugzeugforum.de/threads/40338-LSK-Kennungen
The data is compiled from a variety of sources amongst other from the famous large book
dealing these Tactical numberings and belongings, SUMIG or what the name of that book was.

We have a 450 already skinned in overall aluminium, is included in my latest NVA-LSK.
PF never wore camo in the LSK, I will make an exceptional fictional on your behalf.
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads3&file=details&id=2149

Wow thank you very much!Do you might have another picture of her? He flew it since January 1962. He crahed at 04.07.1962 at 01:30. But what do you mean with popular Kite? Sorry for the bad english. If they don't flew her with camo then you don't need to do it but thanks again! The first picture i've seen of the 450. Btw: he is the one on my profil picture
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Re: MiG-17PF 450 JG-1 German Democratic Republic
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 07:12:54 PM »

I will look up my resources...
seems Yefim is the only publisher of the 450.
Don't know why he claims it to be widely publicised,
maybe as of the source, official LSK/PR instead private collection.
Sadly enough we lost a great website that was run by former Pals of Jagdbombengeschwader 37.
Their site was pretty intense source for LSK MiG-17. But sadly gone to wind, no more.

Your great uncle seemed to be likely part of Jagdfliegergeschwader 1 "Fritz Schmenkel", as he is respectively mentioned in their
honour roll. That unit was the top of the Pops amongst the Fighter units in the LSK. The first, they had the privilegue to chose
just the best to be enlisted as Pilots.

http://home.snafu.de/veith/verluste1.htm

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Am 04. Juli 1963
Absturz der 450, einer MiG-17PF (Werksnummer 1D01-06, Nutzungsbeginn am 16.04.1959 im FG-1) bei Grünberg, Kreis Dresden, geg. 01.30 Uhr. Der Absturz ereignet sich während einer Platzrunde bei geplanter Zwischenlandung in Dresden-Klotzsche. Der Pilot, Leutnant Arnd Eichorn, verstirbt.

http://home.snafu.de/veith/index.html
The author of that homepage is an expert on LSK military aviation aspects, author and co-author of varios
publications.

http://68210.webhosting25.1blu.de/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3&Itemid=41
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Ltn. Eichhorn, Arnd 04.07.196301:30 Uhr  MiG-17 PF„450“    Beim Verbandsflug mit Zwischenlandung in Dresden stürzte das Flugzeug aus Rechtsschräglage  in der Platzrunde (bei Grünberg/Kr. Dresden) ab.
Yeah, no Camo as I'm aware of, there exists no picture that shows a PF or PM in camo.
The Serial 091 Lim-5P/MiG-17PF preserved in Gatow Museum is fake allover, the real identity unknown.
http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook/AZ_Models/AZ_MiG-17PF/AZ_MiG-17PF_cover_h.jpg
This belongs to trouble Yefim Gordon implemented after walking through German Museums, just catching the state of art.
His Serial List is fake throughout and long proven not reliable.

Glad I could be of Help towards your Request
Have a nice day and happy Flying
Tobias
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