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sniperton

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1488 on: March 24, 2017, 03:42:50 AM »

I suspect a russian origin, maybe some project alongside the Alekseyev I-21 Series.

It was my second thought, but note the triangular cross section of the fuselage, which is reminiscent of the Me-262.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1489 on: March 24, 2017, 04:01:16 AM »

Sorry guys: it's not meant to be easy, but challenging. And i see your curiosity is waking up :)

As i said, it's true this is only a drawing (well, now i must admit i'm not sure if a drawing is fully legit), but:

-it's a known project (it could be found on internet) from a known airplane designer. Well.. then, expatriated, but it's NOT a "nemo propheta in patria" situation, he designed successful planes (and not only) in his birthplace.

-the "base" plane was built, and flew. it flew very well, albeit with another powerplant. And it was a taildragger. And Air Forces needs were rapidly changing in those years. Nevertheless, fuselage, wings, and tail are the same: to be more precise, it was meant to be the SAME plane, with some differences.

said so, no Alekseyev, no Me.262.  ;)

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1490 on: March 24, 2017, 04:05:04 AM »

Argentinian ..... ?  IAe 30 Pallavincino 1




Jet modification of the IAe-30 Nancu, also designed by Pallavicino, was to be a heavy fighter in a class of the Gloster Meteor: single-seater, two Rolls-Royce Derwent engines each producing 3.500 lb static thrust. The variant was to have been armed with four Hispano-Suiza cannons. None built.



A proposed jet engined version of this "Hornet look alike"



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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1491 on: March 24, 2017, 04:15:47 AM »

I guess the plane's got a link with the Hornet, as the wings look the same. Are Emile Dewoitine or Kurt Tank involved ?  ;)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1492 on: March 24, 2017, 04:45:09 AM »

And here it is!

excellent, GJE52! :)

my source: https://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/fma-iae-48.11850/page-3
it's almost a "modular" design, in fact the "Project 1" by Pallavicino, it's simply a Derwent-engined Namcu
afaik, Wikipedia declare the merlin version's 780km/h as a still valid south american piston engine speed record, not sure if it's true, tho. Beautiful bird, anyway. too bad FA Argentina obviously decided to follow the jet future.

i'm sorry for some italian puns, but i'll also let you know that somewhat obscure clues were "Near Ball" for "Vicino Palla", "Guilty we are not (we are innocent)" for "Innocenti", builder of Lambretta scooter designed by Pallavicino before moving to Argentina.

As for Pallavicino, here some other infos :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesare_Pallavicino

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1493 on: March 24, 2017, 05:49:10 AM »

Cheers Glynn 8)
Argentina... that would have been one of the last spots to search for an unknown jet project ;)

Best regards - Mike
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1494 on: March 24, 2017, 07:29:45 AM »

Westland P.12 Wendover, I read somewhere that on one of the test flights the rear turret fell off, complete with hapless occupant.

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1495 on: March 24, 2017, 12:35:20 PM »

I'm Argentine, I never heared of a jet version of the Ñancu ... :-|

In this country there were many drawings of jets during the era of Perón 1945-1955 but only pulqui and pulqui II flew. Kurth tank take to India Pulqui III project.

In the most famous stuff made in country for Palavicino was the SIAM Lambretta model known here as "Siambretta"

General Peron testing the first prototipe superviced by Palavicino

General Peron driving the siambretta leadering a group of fans... this countrie es very weird...

Is difficult to understand but much more difficult is to explain it:
Peron was Politically a mix between: Mussolini + Fidel Castro + Marshal Tito + Mandela + Donald Trump... But he was elected and the people loved him!  :-[ :P

If we can put airplanes of that forum of drunkies this is going to become bizarre. ;D


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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1496 on: March 24, 2017, 01:52:11 PM »

It was my third thought that if a quest is hopelessly unsolvable, the solution should be sought in Argentina...  :D ;D
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1497 on: March 24, 2017, 01:56:34 PM »

AH! So its an Argentina proposed jet project. A jet version for the "Nancu".
I searched all over for a built version of the blueprints you posted , but there was no such aircraft.
So it continues to be a "what if". Only a paper-project.
It is still very interesting to me, as I also enjoy looking at project blueprints of aircraft. I am always
all over the internet and in books looking for such stuff.  ;D  Thanks.

Great find SAS~GJE52 ! I never heard of this "Nancu".
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1498 on: March 24, 2017, 07:53:32 PM »


OK. not too hard this time ...  ;)



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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #1499 on: March 24, 2017, 08:30:30 PM »

Thunderchief?
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