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[Gaston]

French !

[Gatrasz]

I remember when I was a kid, going to a little association on the local airfield in my home town... They had preserved one of these, a couple of Mirage 3, maybe a Fouga CM-170 Magister or two, and a Dassault Etendard...

[locopiston]

yes is french!

loadout is the key!

[SAS~Storebror]

It's a Dassault MD-311 Flamant, used by the special unit of the French Air Force in Algeria, GOM.86, during the Algerian War of Independence for light attack with the Nord SS.11 antitank missiles against fortified caves located in steep mountain gorges, which proved extremely successful.
Interesting sidenote is that the engine used (SNECMA 12S) were essentially german Argus 411 engine produced in france after WW2, and the SS.11 antitank missile was derived from the SS.10 which in turn was a further development of the german WW2 X-7 missile and (history can be so ironic) was ordered in numbers by Israel (they just arrived little too late for the IDF to use them in the 1956 Suez crisis).


Mike

[locopiston]

Yes!

good information mike! as always!

it's amazing how that type of missile arrived until our days almost unchanged since the WWII

baton belongs to you now!

[SAS~Storebror]

Indeed, there hasn't been much of a change in the missiles' general concept, however the electronics and sensors inside have been subject to significant changes in the meantime.

Let me follow the path you've paved and chip in this sweet bird:




Mike

[locopiston]

Do not fall into a spiral of French planes of dubious classification... 

Bastan or Astazou will be those elegant turboprop? 

In the aeronautical history of my country there are many things of this style.
do not force me to punish you with that.

[SAS~Storebror]

Bastan
Carefully photoshopped off the nacelles, but now that part has been unveiled

I think these planes are real beauties, like many of those forgotten birds of the 50s and early 60s.
And they're built for purpose, your country had some job to do down in Algeria
The argentine Pucara actually isn't that much different from the basic concept, and it was a great success, despite the fact that the Royal Navy slaughtered them with their exceptional Harrier crews.


Mike

[locopiston]

I was also convinced that the engines were turbomeca Bastan.

But in wikipedia says that the military version was equipped with the Astazou ... just like the pucará.

That's why I asked the question.

It seems that Dassault put the Bastan to the civilian model, calling it MD.415 Communauté and in the only military model called MD.410 Spirale, put the Astazou XIVD.

I can not find the reason of putting a 360kw less powerful engine into the military model ... Will it be by autonomy?

I guess you posted the only military version MD.410 Spirale

[SAS~Storebror]

MD.410 Spirale

Absolutely correct loco, the baton is yours

Wikipedia... they might say what they want - the original picture is this and you can clearly see the "Bastan" on the engine nacelles - and Dassault doesn't even mention the Astazou on their page.

Source: https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/passion/aircraft/military-dassault-aircraft/md-410-spirale/


Mike

[locopiston]

well then 

let's continue with this subtype, just as I promised.

Guess this!


Cheers!

[Gianky]

Guaranì II

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_50_Guaran%C3%AD_II