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mexchiwa

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #972 on: November 28, 2016, 07:41:39 AM »

Rousseau R-30?  French light fighter prototype, don't think there was any production
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #973 on: November 28, 2016, 11:57:45 AM »

By the air intake in the chin I thought it was a bloch 150, then see the wheels and I thought it was some variant of the Morane Saulnier 405 with radial engine.
When see the photos of those planes I realized that this is much smaller.

I arrived at a forum of the "prototype Armée del'Air Française" and I found it.

Is a Roussel R-30 a small light fighter designed and built by the brother  of the designer  of  Bloch 150, although this design measures and weighs half. (That's why the resemblance)



Length: 6.10 m (20 ft 0 in)
Wingspan: 7.72 m (25 ft 4 in)
Height: 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 10 m2 (110 sq ft)
Empty weight: 1,030 kg (2,271 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 1,768 kg (3,898 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × Gnome-Rhône 14M-7 14-cyl air-cooled radial piston engine, 510 kW (690 hp)
Maximum speed: 520 km/h (323 mph; 281 kn) at 5,800 m (19,000 ft)
Range: 1,200 km (746 mi; 648 nmi)
Endurance: 2 hours
Rate of climb: 19 m/s (3,700 ft/min)
Guns: 2x 20 mm (0.787 in) Hispano-Suiza HS.404 cannon


Although Jean-Jacques Rousseau was one of the parents of the illustration, I doubt that he would have designed an airplane.

But without a doubt the point is for mexchiwa. :D
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #974 on: November 28, 2016, 06:47:40 PM »

You are both right Locopiston and mexchiwa,  it is a Roussel 30!

Locopiston thanks for the additional information in the three view with information that would be useful for a modeler.  The information I had on this fighter was from William Green's "War Planes of The Second World War" - Fighters Volume One (of four) the 1963 edition. 

Below are the two pages from the book on the Roussel 30:






I would appreciate any link (or links) either of you found useful regarding this aircraft.  I plan like to put together a "formal" request for this plane to be developed for IL2.  I've always been fascinated by the few very small light weight fighters developed in the 1935 to 1945 time period.   This one in particular looks like it could have been developed into a production type in another year (time which France didn't have).   

Thanks in advance ...tooslow

P.S. It looks like the baton is being passed to mexchiwa!!







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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #975 on: November 28, 2016, 08:03:43 PM »

I add some fonts in several languages. o_O

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roussel_R-30

http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/EwingBill/12198.htm

http://www.fliegerweb.com/de/lexicon/Geschichte/Roussel+R.30-386

http://www.forosegundaguerra.com/viewtopic.php?t=13480#p187680

There are references to the Caudron C-714 C1 that is modded here
The last one is where I found it ... there are other very strange French little fighters. ;D




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mexchiwa

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #976 on: November 29, 2016, 07:30:47 AM »

I don't have anything good - open house
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #977 on: November 29, 2016, 08:45:54 AM »

In that case:
Good luck with guessing 8)



Best regards - Mike
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #978 on: November 29, 2016, 09:01:40 AM »

@tooslow

http://forum.valka.cz/topic/view/42933/Roussel-30

It's in Czech, but Google Translate will help you out  ;)
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locopiston

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #979 on: November 29, 2016, 09:23:07 AM »

Looks like a me 163 komet, but with tail and negative arrow wings ...





I'll have to keep looking, but I think I'll put the previous line in google translate and try with cyrillic characters  ;)

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #980 on: November 29, 2016, 10:04:46 AM »

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #981 on: November 29, 2016, 11:19:44 AM »

You nailed it sniperton, congratulations!
Your turn 8)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #982 on: November 29, 2016, 02:43:41 PM »

Given the markings, it won't be that hard to guess this one.



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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #983 on: November 29, 2016, 03:45:51 PM »

Looks like a Swiss Il2 ... must shoot toblerones :P
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