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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2496 on: November 08, 2017, 03:23:57 AM »

Stalled?
Well, as long as I don't have to name the boyfriend of the pilot's daughter... let me say this obviously is a Piper PA-18 Super Cub.

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2497 on: November 08, 2017, 03:04:06 PM »

Unfortunately Mike, You are incorrect. This is not a PA-18 nor is it any sort of Piper.

It is something completely different.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2498 on: November 08, 2017, 11:26:19 PM »

Yeah, congratulations.
You might not have noticed this yet, but the idea of this quest is to visually identify planes.
There are just too many Cub, Cub Special, Super Cub and what-not clones to list, it would break the 50k char limit.
Didn't know? So you know now.

Now that we're here to visually identify it, let me say that this clearly resembles the Super Cub design. I would give in that it could be a re-engined Cub Special.
Now that it's visually a Cub, I call it a Cub because if a bird walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.

Otherwise, you could as well have posted a blurred image of a 1980 rebuilt Stearman by hell-knows-who and ask for the shoe size of the manufacturer's daughter.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2499 on: November 09, 2017, 02:30:47 AM »

.............so it's not an F35 then Mike........
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2500 on: November 09, 2017, 03:42:36 AM »

Now that it's visually a Cub, I call it a Cub because if a bird walks like a duck and swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, I call that bird a duck.

Let's come over to the dark side of art history.
If I show you a photo as attached below, you'll be able to identify it as one of the most famous early-Flemish paintings from the 15th century by Rogier van der Weyden in the Prado, Madrid.
You'll be both right and not in your identification. The picture I show here is actually not the original, but a 16th century copy made by another Flemish painter, Michiel Coxcie. Moreover, two such copies by Coxcie have been preserved, one in the Prado, and another one in the Bode-Museum in Berlin. This is the Berlin version.
The only hint on the photo that it's not the original (or the other copy) is the picture frame, which is different. Without the picture frame no man on earth would be able to tell from the photo that it's not the original painting by Rogier. It walks like a Rogier and swims like a Rogier and quacks like a Rogier. Without a hint, it's justified to call him a Rogier. ]iamwithstupid[


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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2501 on: November 09, 2017, 06:02:42 AM »

There is a hint on James picture that it's not necessarily an original, untouched, fresh-from-factore Piper Super Cub, that's the wing struts (should be V-shaped on a Cub) and the tailplane (horizontal stab is a tad too high and up front here).
But as I said, there's hundreds if not thousands of these more or less slightly mods on rebuilt, modernized, revamped, spoiled, call it what you want - Cubs!
And all in all, taking James' history into account, this might as well just be a scale plane where the maker didn't even notice his mistake.

But it's a Cub, no matter what the one who nailed it together likes to call it.
Or an F-35 - I must admit, that's the second possible solution.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2502 on: November 09, 2017, 09:13:27 AM »

Sh.t. 1940 Porterfield CP-65 Collegiate N27207.

"Though roughly in the same general class with the tandem-seat Piper Cub, Aeronca Champ, and Interstate Cadet -- and the side-by-side seating Aeronca Chief, Taylorcraft BC-12D and Luscombe 8 -- the tandem-seat Porterfield is visually distinguishable from them by its twin parallel wing struts on each side (compared to the V-shaped struts on the other planes), and by its largely symmetrical airfoil wing (similar curvature top and bottom)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porterfield_Collegiate

This is exactly as much a difference as the frame on the photo in my above post. It's a copy of the CUB. Same engine. Everything is the same.  ]banghead[

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2503 on: November 09, 2017, 01:43:20 PM »

Nice Job you guys!

You caught me. Sniperton, I pass the baton to you.
Your turn!

James
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2504 on: November 09, 2017, 04:05:40 PM »

It is something completely different.

You were a bit overdoing it, weren't you?
Interiorize it please by writing down 100 times "I won't try to mislead my f.cking crazy mates".
Or I'll follow the advice of my wife who suggested that I should continue with paintings as it seems we've already have had all conceivable aircraft designs.

I expect any winner to tell us about what the heck is it. Gimmie stories and background instead of purely naming "it's XwZbdSh3B4"


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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2505 on: November 09, 2017, 04:24:40 PM »

Westland Wendover? An experimental version of the Lysander with a rotating rear turret.
I believe the thing crashed in trials when the turret fell off. Gunner survived with only superficial injuries and probably required a change of underwear.


Though test pilots reported surprisingly good handling compared to the 'Lizzie' in it's normal manifestation,  the Wendover never went beyond the prototype I believe.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2506 on: November 09, 2017, 05:08:13 PM »

Gunners ... probably required a change of underwear.
Go on, this is what we need. The stories beyond the numbers.
On the other hand, the Wendover is one of the ugliest designs (at least for me). Why did Westland's engineers produce such an oddity?
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2507 on: November 10, 2017, 03:47:48 AM »

It was proposed for anti-invasion and ground strafing roles; I don't give much odds for the survival of the crew if it was used operationally, though it was an excellent craft for it's original purpose.
Reduced threat of invasion curtailed it's further development I suppose, though it might of been a useful anti-insurgency tool later on methinks.

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