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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2544 on: November 16, 2017, 01:20:35 AM »

When I say "it's a Curtiss <xyz>", someone gets back to me with "it's not a Curtiss", then I say "maybe not <xyz>, but how can you say it's not any other?" and the same guy comes back with "it's not a Curtiss" with no sources to backup that stance... yes, when that happens, I'm talking straight.
Deal with it :P
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2545 on: November 16, 2017, 01:48:34 AM »

Ok, we'll put my mystery bird on hold, and I'll take on p51's glider. LNE-1?  (Going by the rudder)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2546 on: November 16, 2017, 02:45:40 AM »

I have to admit that I'm not convinced yet about the HM-1. The shape of the wing root and canopy seem different, and the paint job looks more like a racer than a military prototype to me  :-|

We would definitely need photographic evidence (or maybe a look on the serial number) ;)
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2547 on: November 16, 2017, 04:17:14 AM »

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2548 on: November 16, 2017, 04:23:10 AM »

I fully agree with Gatrasz. And to add another possible detail (beyond those that Mike observed in ##), the vertical stabilizer of the HM-1 is nearly symmetric in shape, the leading edge has almost the same strong curvature as the rearward rudder part. Very little from the tail section is seen on the blurry quest image, but the leading edge of the vertical stabilizer, seen distorted by perspective, doesn't seem to have the same strong curvature.

I admit that the position of the canopy fits the HM-1 best, but as Mike rightly brought up, here we may have to deal with an unknown modification of a plane X, where the quest plane does not completely match any candidate for X.

James argues that it must have been derived from the HM-1, while Mike, Gatrasz and myself argue that it may have been derived from another type as well.

James made a hypothesis, which is the best so far, but not convincing enough to regard this quest as fully resolved IMHO.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2549 on: November 16, 2017, 04:36:12 AM »

f35
God dammit, it's been right in our face all the time.
Thanks for pointing out the obvious Ricky!

not convincing enough to regard this quest as fully resolved IMHO.
Now it is 8)

Cheers ]cheers[
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2550 on: November 16, 2017, 05:17:07 AM »

While I made a pretty bold claim to know what it is. I am also finding discrepancies in my own conclusion. So please disregard my quest idea as this doesnt seem to be finished and even I think I have the wrong plane. I am sorry if I caused some greif here. Oh and btw Mex, thats it!

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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2551 on: November 16, 2017, 06:59:08 AM »

No grief I guess, just a bit of boldness when formulating one's ideas  ;)

Anyway, are we stuck? Can anyone fancy the serial number? And maybe the paint as Gatrasz suggested can lead to another canditate?
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2552 on: November 16, 2017, 04:53:00 PM »

I’m not sure. We seem to be at an impass. But I think it may be a Bellanca 28-70 or some variation of it.

Thoughts?


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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2553 on: November 16, 2017, 05:46:07 PM »

We've failed so far, but I find it more freightening that Mike's avatar is blinking. Seriously. Mike, ist alles in Ordnung?
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2554 on: November 16, 2017, 06:26:18 PM »

You're right, that is rather creepy.
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Re: Quest: Guess what is depicted here
« Reply #2555 on: November 16, 2017, 10:35:31 PM »

I think Ricky nailed it 8)
Mike's avatar is blinking.
Sounds like you're staring at images for too long :P
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