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[P51vsFw190]

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James

[DHumphrey]

Well lets see …

#1 - is the Convair Liberator-Liner

#2 - is the Stinson L-5

#3 - is the B-24 Liberator

#4 - is the Consolidated B-32 Dominator x4 (I think)

[P51vsFw190]

#1, #2, and #3 are correct.

#4 is wrong. They are Privateers.

Baton goes to you DH


James

[DHumphrey]

#4 is wrong. They are Privateers.

They are very similar in that they both used the same rudder and vertical fin assembly, as well as, the horizonal stab and elevator assembly. Same main wing and engines as well. Also both aircraft were based on the B-24's design.

Alright All,

Lets try this next one.

[P51vsFw190]

The B-32 uses different wings and engines. The tail is of the same style but it is not the same as the Privateer.

[LameHawk]

WW1 types - not to mention earlier ones - aren't exactly my first choice.
Nevertheless I managed to stumble across this one.
The Ponnier L.1
First flight 1914 - never made it to the order book.
Seemingly derived from a monoplane

[P51vsFw190]

Lame, that looks like a monoplane Nieuport 17

[LameHawk]

It is the Ponnier D.III.

But Ponnier had hired a Nieuport designer, Alfred Pagny, who is behind this plane, so any likeness is purely "non-coincidental"

They added a wing on top, and the L.1 was born

[DHumphrey]

Hello All,

LameHawk is correct. 

The Ponnier L.1 was an early French biplane single seat scout, built just before World War I. It did not reach production. Just before World War I, most French aircraft designers had concentrated, with success, on fast monoplanes. When a British biplane, the Sopwith Tabloid, won the Schneider Trophy in 1913 they were encouraged by the French government to think again about the possibilities of that wing configuration for military or "Cavalrie" types. The Ponnier L.1 of July 1913 was one response, a biplane revision of the Cavalrie version of the Ponnier D.III monoplane. The L.1 and D.III shared the same fuselage.



The L.1 was a single bay biplane with a pair of tall, parallel interplane struts with flying and landing wires on each side. There was mild stagger and dihedral. The wings used a thick airfoil and were straight edged, slightly tapered and square tipped; the lower wing had a slightly smaller span. The upper wing had a deep cut-out to provide some upward vision for the pilot, who sat under the wing just aft of mid-chord. The It had a fixed, conventional undercarriage with its mainwheels on a single axle mounted on a pair of V-struts to the lower fuselage longerons, assisted by a long tailskid, mounted well forward.

Ponnier had hoped for military orders but none came. When the L.1 first appeared its suitability for more powerful engines was noted; rotaries with powers of up to 100 hp (75 kW) were suggested. The Ponnier M.1, flown in 1915 and the only Ponnier fighter to reach production, benefited from the L.1, it was smaller and better streamlined, but shared some features like the thick wings, large gap, moderate stagger and slight span difference between upper and lower planes, the finless vertical tail and simple undercarriage. Its engine was a 80 hp (60 kW) Le Rhone.

Your turn LameHawk.

[LameHawk]

Thank you DH

This is clearly not a PZL.11

[sniperton]

[P51vsFw190]

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