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[SAS~Tom2]

Good day chaps,

I would like to kindly ask for a FM capable editor to help me (better: do a job as I am not capable of FM edits=yet ) with the latest buttons SAS 4.09m (UP2.1) F-86Fs:
(Greybeard, albeit not interested in post WWII planes, generously helped me for a private F-86A mod. That was and is all the help I can and want to ask of this gentleman. )

The F-86Fs in 4.09m, albeit having two prominent FM bugs, are IMHO after all the videos I saw over the past 4 years, the best flying IL-2 Sabres. 

The issue they have:
The negative G limit is still not there, they should top out at ca. 3 negative Gs. Like with the old DBW Jet Era Sabres, often they can pull more negative than positive G at a given speed.

The 2nd issue, also similar to the old DBW issue yet less pronounced: If you visualize the elevator effectiveness courve as a graph, between 300 and ca. 420 Knots the amount of Gs pullable drops in significantly, at greater speeds or slower speeds, the turn rate is much better.
This is not just a performance gap, it leads as well to the "hickup" old "pitch, delay, pitch" movement when pulling on the stick...and the latter is visible inside and outside at this speed range.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is pretty much the only thing that seperates the UP2.1 Sabre pack in the 4.09m section from a very immersive pack.
 
Tom

[SaS~JackS]

Tom,

 Just noticed your post.

I was the original FM for the original jets so perhaps I could be of assistance.

I'll set up a 4.09 instance and get it running, then decompile the button and see what we have.

Jack

[SAS~Tom2]

Tom,

 Just noticed your post.

I was the original FM for the original jets so perhaps I could be of assistance.

I'll set up a 4.09 instance and get it running, then decompile the button and see what we have.

Jack

Hello Walter,

thanks very much, in fact I just saw your reply. 

The best way to get something for you out of this approach would be to install UP2.1 and follow this little guide here, with or without Sabre pack, it contains links to the very good Tiger Sound mod UV2.

With Jeronimo's new F-84 cockpit mod in his Visuals thread, these jets are fun as well BTW.


In reply 10 is all you would need.
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,46792.0.html


The buttons I use are these
https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/topic,23404.0.html

Latest version, mine is the 2nd to last---and the UV2 version (for sounds).

That would be great, a tad less decrease in elevator authority between 290 and 420/425 Knots. And-if 4.09m allows it at all, maybe a less drastic negative G capability. I usually say this but I mean it: Don't stress youself, do it only if you like it..

 
Thorsten