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Author Topic: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers V 2.2 - 20181008  (Read 74259 times)

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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #108 on: August 20, 2016, 10:27:58 AM »

stable - yes (works online so... yeah)

but with this we could do those realistic ripple-modes -.o
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #109 on: August 20, 2016, 01:00:55 PM »

but with this we could do those realistic ripple-modes -.o

Ah, OK. I agree with you about ripple mode.
I insert it in my TO-DO-List of the long span.

My problems are how keep its compatibility to non ripple mode aircrafts in WWII and how to decrease key assignment.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #110 on: August 21, 2016, 07:53:57 AM »

Well... that would maybe need redoing of the buttons already in the engine mod... with modes dirrectly in the plane class, maybe operated by the class of the chosen rocket.

For example:
MiG-21 - fires S-5 from all four pylons at the same time - 4, 8 or 16 times.
Su-25 - fires from two pylons at the time only, but as long as you hold the trigger (it switches to next pair automatically).
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2016, 09:26:20 PM »



As MarvinT Reply #13 i notice a strange behaviour with this bird in 412.2 Modact 5.3 and CUP.
She performs erratic behaviour and its impossible to land full flaps.

This plane definitely has a problem with 412.2 Modact 5.3 and CUP.
Such an awesome mod, it would be nice to get it fixed.

I would describe the behaviour under flaps as "over cooked", where the lift and drag are set exponentially high
compared to realistic values. It's as if there is a lift / drag multiplier set, or the numbers are way out by error.

The Drag:
The excess drag can be observed by taking off with a full bomb load and full flap, the aircraft cannot accelerate
enough to set a safe flap reduction. Try it in take off flap then, only a gradual speed increase, begging for more speed
and barely reaching safe speed for retraction to combat flap, then again to reach full flap retraction speed.

The lift:
Excess lift can clearly be observed when flaps are deployed, indeed, using combat flap for landing is even more lift than
full landing flap should be. Pitch attitude during flap deployment is an obvious indicator something is WAY out.
Also, massive trim changes needed between flap modes, watch the Horizontal Stabiliser in outside view while trimming
to see this obvious trim difference during a flap change, it's particularly dangerous during climb out and flap reduction.

I'm not being negatively critical, it's just a great mod and a fix would be welcome if possible.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2016, 02:01:22 PM »

NO FULL QUOTES!

And if you have installed F-100 Super Sabre?
If not, install it and try it, I do not know what's going on, but I think helps.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2016, 05:08:37 AM »

A new BETA patch to enable "Select Bomb class" function for F-105.

Hi Western.
The switching bombs is great.
But I have a question, why in 105 changed the switching mode viewfinder hunting, dating to the bombing.
I do not know whether I expressed clear up, but dating in the cabin works differently after installing the patch than before.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #114 on: August 27, 2016, 06:47:26 AM »

Hi Western.
The switching bombs is great.
But I have a question, why in 105 changed the switching mode viewfinder hunting, dating to the bombing.
I do not know whether I expressed clear up, but dating in the cabin works differently after installing the patch than before.
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I don't understand what you are pointing so enough, but in my thought that....
 1. internal classification change:
 before - fighter but NOT bomber / now - fighter and bomber
 To enable "Train" bombing, it is needed. And F-105's historical working is enough to classify as bomber, I think.
 2. initializing in mission starting time change:
 Why that code was written? I don't know.... before code ignored stock aircraft mission starting steps.
 To enable new "Bomb select" function, going into stock mission starting steps is needed and I make it.

Is it bad?
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #115 on: August 27, 2016, 09:30:49 AM »

NO FULL QUOTES!

As for the functions of the mode switch bombs, it works flawlessly.
I was interested only switch function viewfinder, maybe it was worth it to add a function off the viewfinder, as in the F-100, F-8 and was the F-105 in the original version.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #116 on: August 27, 2016, 09:43:32 AM »

I've done NOTHING about viewfinder in my plan.
If the viewfinder is changed, that is out of my plan.... by mistake like rewinding classfile version unexpected.
I use the classfiles published in the 1st post of this topic dated 15th/Nov./2015 or 14th/Nov. , 03rd/Nov. , 20th-16th/Sep. and earlier for the base of my changes.

Do you talk about another update patch after 15th/Nov./2015 ?
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #117 on: August 27, 2016, 10:39:27 AM »

Your last patch Engine Mod, I have installed and works flawlessly.
The problem with sight occurs after you install the patch for the F-105 of 15 August 2016.
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #118 on: August 29, 2016, 03:55:40 AM »

And if you have installed F-100 Super Sabre?
If not, install it and try it, I do not know what's going on, but I think helps.

The F-100 is part of CUP and already installed, is there something there that is missing perhaps?
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Re: F-105 Thunderchief by Ranwers
« Reply #119 on: August 29, 2016, 05:53:21 AM »

And if you have installed F-100 Super Sabre?
If not, install it and try it, I do not know what's going on, but I think helps.

The F-100 is part of CUP and already installed, is there something there that is missing perhaps?

I do not use the CUP.
I Modact SAS 5.3 and other necessities.
When I installed F-105 actually were problems with the landing, it was hard but I gave land.
After installing the F-100, the problems disappeared.
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