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[Siggels]

I hope I have come to the right place, ie SAS, and I hope this is the right forum to ask the questions that will come up.

My aim is to eventually get in place and working a private dedicated server.  I'm using IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 4.10.1 as my test server.  Later I will branch out into the mods.

But first, I want to establish the very basic multiplaying mode using the Local Area Network I have here.  If I can't successfully launch a LAN multiplaying session, I've not a snowflake's hope of getting up a dedicated server.

My situation: I have two computers that are IL-2 capable and one that is suitable to run a server.  The two IL-2 computers use Win 7 and Win 10 and the computer that will run the dedicated server has Win 7 also.  I use Saitek Pro Flight X52 HOTAS and rudder peddles as well as Natural Point Track IR 5 on both computers.

BTW, the two IL-2 capable computers are setup on Aker Barnes cockpits. The  first one of these I built myself and the second I got of a friend from a LAN club, whose members actually designed the Aker Barnes cockpit.  It's the second such cockpit to be ever built.  I've done some modding of my own, but with plywood and have added some improvements to the Aker Barnes cockpit that I think will be useful to others.  I intend to post photographs of these mods to my website one of these days.

Also, this is not the first time I have attempted to get up multiplaying using IL-2.

Now to the current problem:  As stated above, I am trying to get up a LAN on two computers.  Both have been set up with the Hardware Setup/Network/LAN option.  My ESET firewall on both computers have had exception rules created using UDP to be allowed both ways and the IL2fb.exe selected from the correct IL-2 folder.  The LAN IP I got from running CMD/ipconfig.  I used both IPv6 and Ipv4 addresses.  An example of the address I used: 20.0.0.456:21000 or 20.0.0.167:21001

No successful LAN launch yet.

[SAS~Storebror]

Actually that's a lot of questions in one

Let's keep things simple first.
When you just want to play together with 2 PCs, you don't need no dedicated server (yet).
So let's try to get this running first: 2 PCs playing IL-2 together, one hosts the game, the other one joins it.
You would want to check your network settings first.
20.0.0.0/8 networks are quite unusual since that network address space is reserved for CSC since 1994.

Depending on how many addresses you need, you would rather want a /16 (65,536 addresses), /12 (1,048,576 addresses) or a different /8 (16,777,216 addresses) block.
The IP address ranges are accordingly:
/16: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
/12: 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
/8: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255

/16 will usually do, you would want PC1 be e.g. 192.168.0.1 and PC2 be 192.168.0.2

Now setup the PCs IP addresses accordingly and check they can "see" each other.
In order to do so, open a command prompt (Start -> Run -> cmd) and type "ping 192.168.0.2" on PC1 or "ping 192.168.0.1" on PC2 accordingly.

As long as that doesn't work it's pointless to proceed.
Check your Firewall for required settings (I don't know enough about ESET to tell you).
In doubt, disable the firewall completely at least for testing purpose.

Once you got this working, please reply so we can proceed.

Best regards - Mike

[Siggels]

Thanks Mike for your reply.

The LAN IP was actually 10.0.0.131 which is for a WiFi USB Adapter.  Both computers have WiFi USB Adapters.

I didn't want to give the correct IP for security reasons, but I guess if it's a LAN IP you would be safe.  This field of computing is where I lack expertise.

Which brings me to my next question:

How do I change the LAN IP?

Do I still change the LAN IP to 192.168.0.1 for the first computer and 192.168.0.2 for the second or should it be some other number now you have the correct information about the original LAN IP?

Cheers.

[Siggels]

The LAN IP addresses on pc1 and pc2 are now changed to static addresses.  I used Port Forward dot com to do that.  I used this program at my last attempt to get up a LAN and dedicated server.

Did the ping test on both pc's and both passed.

Got up a successful LAN session on IL-2.

Discovered that the Saitek X52 PRO joystick isn't working on pc2.  This one runs Win 10 and I downloaded the latest drivers from Saitek.  Will swap over the joystick with pc1 tomorrow and see if it works.

Cheers.

[Siggels]

Checked out the stick and throttle on the other computer and the throttle is cactus.

When I have another throttle, I'll get back here to sort out the dedicated server.

Cheers.

[SAS~Storebror]

Hi Siggels,

Great to hear that you got your first LAN session going now.
10.x.x.x adresses are indeed just valid in your local network, so there's no risk in telling them to the world.
Same goes to 192.168.x.x addresses.
Which address space you use is rather your own choice if there's no hardware involved that forces you to use either (and in your case it's not).

Concerning the joystick, with latest drivers the X52Pro is supposed to work on Windows 10.
Nevertheless "latest" can sometimes be a strange experience with Saitek / Madcatz.
For instance when I right now look at http://www.saitek.com/uk/down/drivers.php for the latest Windows 10 64 Bit driver, then I get version 7.0.47.1 offered.
When I look at the beta drivers from Saitek FTP at ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/beta/Windows10/X52PRO/ I get the same driver version 7.0.47.1 offered.
If however I make my way to the official "full" driver path on Saitek FTP at ftp://ftp.saitek.com/pub/software/full/X52PRO/ I have the choice of both driver version 7.0.47.1 and 7.0.53.6.
Might be worth a try

So what's your next plan?
Are you still planning to run a dedicated server or was playing together with 2 PCs all you wanted to achieve?

Best regards - Mike

[Siggels]

Yeh, I'm gunna go the whole hog with this.  But I'll wait a couple of weeks until I start the on the dedicated server after I square away stuff.

I'll try the drivers you mentioned, but I don't like my chances of it working, seeing the faulty throttle didn't work on the computer that already runs the other throttle.

Back in a couple of weeks.

Cheers.

Update: Fixed the problem with the HOTAS.  It needed to be recognised as ID2.  I'm now gunna stuff around with the in-game radio, which I've never tried yet.

[Siggels]

The LAN IL-2 sessions are working.  The internet is not on the pc2 Win 10 computer.  It's connected to the LAN and Internet via a WiFi USB adapter.

I ran a Win 10 'fix it' program and message was:

"One or more network protocols are missing on this computer."

I've tried the WPS button on the 'modem', and then pressing the button on the USB 'modem', but have no joy so far.

I was hoping to use TeamSpeak, but that's on the backburner until this is sorted.

Cheers.

Update:  Did a search on google and found this: .  Reckon I'll give it a go tomorrow.  Feeling a bit knackered right now.

[Siggels]

I think the internet is fixed now.  Time will tell.

Next item is communications.  I think I'll skip the in-game Radio, so I have a TeamSpeak3 64-bit server instead.

Got this server up and logged in using a TeamSpeak3 client on pc1 which is also running the TS server.

No probs there.  I used the LAN address, password and privilege key and I was in like Flynn.

Problem is with the other computer, ie. pc2.  I've tried everything I can think of.

And there is another problem.  It won't 'Apply' my bookmark.  Edit: It won't save the extension, ie. :9987.

Which means I can't save the correct TS3 IP which is found by right clicking on the server name and scrolling down to Connection Info.

Cheers from a stunned mullet.

[Siggels]

It's been ten days of fun!  Yeh, struggling with an old brain, but I've got it all working now, thanks to PortForward.com, who created the software necessary for me to update my router.  And Wombat Servers Australia, who provided five slots for a very reasonable annual fee in Aussie dollars.  My son was with Game Servers for a while and it hurt his hip pocket each month, especially when he paid in US dollars, which you add another thirty percent on top of the monthly fee, as well as international fees for the credit card.

But no thanks goes to Telstra, our ISP, unfortunately, for their bad service and crappy infrastructure.  But I managed to fix the internet connection myself after some trials and ordeals.

So now I've got two computers in their respective cockpits, LAN mission up and running, with TeamSpeak 3 and Track IR as support utilities.

Next thing, I need to figure out how to configure my map for ground starts, instead of air starts.  Any takers?

[Siggels]

My situation: I have two computers that are IL-2 capable and one that is suitable to run a server.  The two IL-2 computers use Win 7 and Win 10 and the computer that will run the dedicated server has Win 7 also.  I use Saitek Pro Flight X52 HOTAS and rudder peddles as well as Natural Point Track IR 5 on both computers.

I've finished some paint touch-ups on the second cockpit and all is now ready for some testing of the LAN network.  So I'll do some flying with my son over the next few days to checkout if Siggels Ultimate Everthing profiles are correct.  This will be the first extensive test I've done on the 1946 version.  Already have found some conflicts, no doubt will find more.

The computer that will be running the server has changed.  It will be an Acer Notebook computer.  Doesn't have a lot of grunt, but I think it will be more than adequate.  It runs Win 8.01.  I have already installed the server for IL-2 Sturmovic 1946 4.10.1.  This server I built from the install files available from M4T at the last attempt to get up a dedicated server.  So they are saved to my external hdd and I just copied the working copy and a stock copy to the root directory, ie, c:\00ds4101.  I also set the server computer to a static address of 10.0.0.50.  My original server is now minus a graphics card as I had to canabalise it, because my cockpit computer's graphics card died.  It was a Nvidia GTX 610 ti.  It now sports an Nvidia GTS 450 which is adequate for 4.10.1.  Got to save up my milk bottle tops to get another one or better, preferably better.

Checked out the stick and throttle on the other computer and the throttle is cactus.

Turns out that the id number was id2 not id1 as on my other cockpit.

About the ground starts/air starts, I'll go over my notes I wrote when doing a mission building course at Joint Ops Virtual Combat Schools.  Sadly, Joint Ops closed it's doors early last year.  Also, M4T has good resources in the Knowledge Base that I'll go over as well.  The reason I'm not competent with mission building is my computer at the time had just enough grunt to run default IL-2 sim at the time, but not enough grunt to run the mission builder.

So, I'll be back in about a week I guess, hoping to get a private dedicated server up and running.  As stated above, most of the ground work was already done on my last attempt.  Just need a guiding hand to get it going.  Cheers.

Edit: Just found this on M4T, and have stored the link here in case I need it:- http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=20858

[sercrets]

Did you manage to get it going by chance? If so can you list the steps so I may replicate it? Cheers.