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[SAS~Malone]

i think back to how many great and talented modders we have lost along the way, more with each new TD patch.
a huge loss to the community, all to this handful who seem to believe they own the rights and thus can do what they like, rest of the world be buggered.
if i think where a united IL-2 scene could have been, other than the fact that we now spend 90% of our efforts making all those old mods function with each new TD patch.
honestly, i'm disgusted, totally disgusted.
i won't have any more to do with this crap, it's just a waste of everyone's time.
honestly, TD then play 'hurt' and 'innocent', when they know full well what a mess they make of things.
if the plan is to kill mods, then it will fail. miserably.
we are now getting accustomed to forging our own path, and it seems it will stay that way.
this community will not stand for being held to ransom with each new TD patch.
take it and shove it where the sun don't shine.

[asheshouse]

I very much welcome new content from every source.
I welcome the latest offering from TD and will happily patch my copy of the "stock" game to begin to explore all the new stuff.

-- but I look forward to being able to add as much of this new content as possible to my core installation v4.12.2
That's where the future is IMO.

[bomberkiller]

This is exactly what guys like Lebig and Lutz have been saying and writing for years and years ...

Can't remember that DT's member name who said:

"... we are officials, we've got the tools and bla bla bla ..."

His name is/ was "Cicero" aka "Caspar" (I'll call him Caspar because I know this name from the old "UBI" forum). 

With Caspar I had a heated argument in end 2011 due to the TD behavior in some IL-2 forums.

In three forums, I had referred to the project by the TD. Before the appearance from 4:11 Patch TD had reported that one wants to make the embed of mods for IL-2 impossible.

Caspar is/ was the bla-bla man in all forums for TD only. Good for Caspar: He himself still knew nothing of the subsequent TD behavior in the years 2011/ 2012.

I knew then about the TD projects as Caspar and therefore Caspar called me a liar! I fought hard against the opinion of TD - "Mod is Hack".

TD seems to be "unmodded IL-2" philosophy of backers for! They are too proud and conceited to admit Mods in "their own" IL-2. 

In memory of the Caspar bla-bla (I'm sorry, it is in german):

https://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=25836.30;wap2

It seems to me quite clear, SAS is the best IL-2 community in the whole Internet! 

Greetings to all here,

Gerhard 

[Mick]

... posted by Ton414 at FM's ... 

Comparison between 4.13 and 4.13.1 ... 

[SAS~Storebror]

Thank you Ton414
That confirms the worst expectations.

Best regards - Mike

[Asura]

Data aren't right because of the changed hashing and parameters of packing sfs.

[SAS~Storebror]

changed hashing and parameters of packing sfs

Ah, the matters are getting even worse.
Thanks for pointing that out.
What benefit should a change in the hashing algorithm and the SFS packing have, apart from making life harder for the modding community once more?

Best regards - Mike

[bomberkiller]

What benefit should a change in the hashing algorithm and the SFS packing have, apart from making life harder for the modding community once more?

The preventing of any change by mods in 4.13.1 - what else?

 

[Asura]

All is much simpler it was necessary to continue work on new versions on new to address in 1C, to get the work permit and to adjust all isntrument from the very beginning. And as at compilation all files change comparison yields such result.

[SAS~Storebror]

at compilation all files change

That's just plain wrong.

Best regards - Mike

[Asura]

What benefit should a change in the hashing algorithm and the SFS packing have, apart from making life harder for the modding community once more?

The preventing of any change by mods in 4.13.1 - what else?

 

I won't tell for the DT old team, I didn't penetrate into disputes and problems, but at new team wasn't and there are no plans as that to prevent mods. Everything is available to changes as before. I don't play many years in stock the version of game, only mods at the heart of which SAS ModAct and a set of good and different mods from the different websites. Now with pleasure I pass the dynamic campaigns Motorhed on assembly for version 4.13.1. Everything that is made in mods everything works.

[Asura]

at compilation all files change

That's just plain wrong.

Best regards - Mike

So tools 1C work. There is absolutely other approach. Strongly differs from mods.