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4.13.1 is released
« on: April 07, 2016, 10:45:19 AM »

just thought id pass this along for those who are interested.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=229683
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2016, 11:17:14 AM »

WoooWoooWooooW!!!!!

Only reading its Chagelog , it sounds like very impressive big update!
Especially Ground vehicles / Trains / Ships' updates are interesting for me.
I feel it is not a small update of "0.1" but measure like "1.0" version-up.  ;D
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2016, 12:12:31 PM »

The main question is:
How much has the Java code been messed up this time, meaning: How many mods will still work?

Best regards - Mike
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2016, 01:00:05 PM »

SAS Modact no longer works.

No big deal though, we have CUP.
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »

Are we to assume now that moddable IL-2 is up to 4.12.2 only and that Daidalos's 4.13 onwards is in effect a vanilla game only? I know there is Modact 6 for 4.13 but having experienced the problems Modact 6 has with FMB my question remains..

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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2016, 04:19:10 PM »

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SAS Modact no longer works.

No big deal though, we have CUP.   

 ......priceless .......  :o


TD .. " a day late and a dollar short"..... as usual

I am sure that the bits in this latest offering that aren't dedicated to code changes and/or correcting bugs in their previous release,   :P  will be converted in due course to be compatible with the versions that 90% of the community use.

In fact I will bet that some of my illustrious and highly talented colleagues are already on the case ......  ;)

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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2016, 08:24:14 PM »

Give credit where credit is due. The new aircraft, revised cockpits, and new ground objects represent real improvements to the game. Ditto for the revised train effects and rolling stock. All are worth porting over to CUP.
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2016, 11:08:10 PM »

SAS Modact no longer works.
Funny, isn't it?
You just buy a new car and all of a sudden the old keys don't fit anymore.
The world has become such a strange place... :-|

the problems Modact 6 has with FMB
... which have been solved since 9 months.

the bits in this latest offering that aren't dedicated to code changes and/or correcting bugs in their previous release,   :P  will be converted in due course to be compatible with the versions that 90% of the community use.
That's the way to go at the moment.
Since TD's habit of deliberately changing the base game code in a way to render most of the existing mods incompatible with new patch versions is unlikely to change, our limited resources are far too precious to waste them on running behind TD's bait.
We tried to change that, we tried to talk to TD and establish a kind of mutual respect in the development of code changes, but TD showed no commitment at all.

The new aircraft, revised cockpits, and new ground objects represent real improvements to the game. Ditto for the revised train effects and rolling stock.
Absolutely true.
It's the same vice versa: TD knows of the great mods coming from the community and they frequently take some of them (often times together with the regarding modder) for inclusion into their works.
That makes it even harder to accept that there's no way to get them to reason and to finally work together on the further development of IL2.

Best regards - Mike
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2016, 11:54:50 PM »

About working together... let's say there are many... controversial people around...
...so I guess picking only a certain circle of people is reasonable.
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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2016, 01:21:49 AM »

Test Modact with 4.13.1

Crash at 60% - solved: the buttons in 413 is different (1007 KB)

Then crash at 70% - core java files changed in the new files.SFS or the new dt.dll included in the patch (if this last one is the case, this would indeed need to be considered as an open war declaration towards the mod community)

Here's the link to the classdumped files of 4.13.1:
https://www.mediafire.com/download/7xjfdbz7utjlcol/Classdumped+4.13.1+Files.7z

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Re: 4.13.1 is released
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2016, 02:10:03 AM »

Whenever I see comments praising TD for their latest "poisoned chalice" the phrase "Turkeys voting for Christmas" comes to mind......  ;)

Without the input from the wider modding community this game would have slipped into oblivion long ago. It would never have had this kind of longevity and loyal support if TD patches were all that was available.

TD are fully aware of this fact, indeed it is what drives their need to try and establish "control" by code changes that seek to negate any other input. By forcing modders to devote valuable time to playing "catch up" they think they can call the tune ....  :-|

Anyway I know this has all be said many, many times before ...... I also know that there are guys here who will read this and are also part on the TD Mafia, so be under no illusion s that they do what they do in the full knowledge of the impact it has on the community ....... that is why most of the guys who have any sense are sad to see TD being encouraged by some members here to pursue what amounts to an "all ours or nothing" policy. Just remember we have tried to co-operate, they have refused to respond.

IMHO the need to draw a line in the sand only becomes more obvious as each successive "slap in the face"  from TD is delivered to the community.

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